Phil Collins: we decided TONIGHT!

Who the hell do you people that crucufy him think you are?  You have never done anything or will do anything that comes close to the level of greatness he has created.  Phil is a tremendous drummer and frontman/singer.  If you don't like his poppier material, then look the other way.  It's not up to you to critique his work because your opinion quite frankly means sh*t.  Besides, most of you just jump on the bandwagon against Phil anyway.  Leave Phil alone because he IS a genius but there is not an evil bone in his body.  I don't care what people think.  I like a lot of his solo stuff, even Tarzan.  Now, most of you just turned from my response after that, but who are you to judge.  The stuff I don't like doesn't bother me because Phil has given me such joy and inspiration, he can do whatever he likes.  Leave him alone because everyone else has picked on him enough, and for the last time, he didn't do anything to Genesis.  It was all five of them that affected the band.  But, of course you would just assume because like I said you're quick to assume and jump on the bandwagon.

It's just speculation on my part, but I think Collins has become an easy scapegoat for why the music went in the direction it did. It's almost like people are too lazy to look for the real reason it diverted so much from their original goal. Why are Rutherford and Banks untouchable? They weren't billed Phil Collins & Genesis or Genesis featuring Phil Collins. That pie was divided equally three ways, my friends. To slam one man is unfair, unfounded, and unimaginative.

I also like his solo work. Face Value (especially side 2) is out of this world!

E

He's quite obviously an Evil Oaf.  He meant ill from the start, but it took him about a half-dozen albums, because he's such an oaf.  

E-Dub wrote: Why are Rutherford and Banks untouchable? They weren't billed Phil Collins & Genesis or Genesis featuring Phil Collins. That pie was divided equally three ways, my friends. To slam one man is unfair, unfounded, and unimaginative.

How about this alternative to the "Collins started writing pop songs and made Genesis pop" theory: "Collins wasn't much of a songwriter before they went pop, but Rutherford and Banks were, so it's the two remaining founding members' fault that they stopped writing prog."  Not that I believe the second statement is true, but if we're incorrectly going to blame only part of the band, I think it makes more a bit more sense.

I really can't stand the song "Misunderstanding," but it would not have been on Duke if Banks and Rutherford had not chosen it for Genesis out of the songs Collins had written.  Of course they were all responsible for everything they recorded.  This is a band whose procedure for accepting members' material is frequently blamed for forcing a member out. It doesn't make sense to say they collectively made Hackett leave and then say Collins single-handedly made them a pop band.

(SMACK)

.....dude

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He is also responsible for Bowies "Tin machine", his worst period.

I also agree with the opinion that Phil Collins its only a good drumer, just that