Prog and other genres.

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Well, if we take "prog" as a subset of a set called "music", I'm curious to know to which other subset "prog" is overlapping the most? (thanks BaldJean for the idea!)

I hope that I expressed myself clear enough

To make it harder - no multiple votes allowed

Let the prolific flood begin!

Edited by clarke2001 - February 17 2007 at 19:33

Poll Question: To whom of those genres prog is overlapping the most?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
hard rock	9	[23.68%]
metal	1	[2.63%]
alternative	1	[2.63%]
folk	2	[5.26%]
pop	1	[2.63%]
jazz	6	[15.79%]
classical	16	[42.11%]
electronic	0	[0.00%]
blues	0	[0.00%]
avantgarde	2	[5.26%]
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clarke2001 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160	Topic: Prog and other genres. Posted: February 17 2007 at 19:28
	Well, if we take "prog" as a subset of a set called "music", I'm curious to know to which other subset "prog" is overlapping the most? (thanks BaldJean for the idea!) I hope that I expressed myself clear enough To make it harder - no multiple votes allowed Let the prolific flood begin! Edited by clarke2001 - February 17 2007 at 19:33
	Percussion, sir!

laplace Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606	Posted: February 17 2007 at 19:31
	it's hard because I try to think of prog as a movement with lots of radical wings. the core sound owes lots to both classical and jazz so I'll select the former because Yes and Genesis aren't jazzy. I know that's quite a let down of a conclusion but it's my own, copyright me.

MadcapLaughs84 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 21 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 658	Posted: February 17 2007 at 20:02
	I don't understand, what's the meaning of overlapping, sorry???


Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: February 18 2007 at 00:07
	I see more groups adding the heavy guitar as a main instrument. So while it's not exactly HM, a lot of it would have been considered heavy rock 25- 30 years ago. Porcupine Tree's opening track on Deadwing is an example of what I mean. It's not heavy metal, but late 70s, it would be played out on hard rock stations. Anglagard, too is another example. They're by no means HM, but they have aspects of that genre. A lot of the Neo Prog could be compared to what they called the HM sub-genre "Pomp" rock in the late 70s & early 80s. Saga were a big example, & I remember Pallas being described in the same way. I think the classical influence has been pretty much played out on the Europeen scene, but there's still so much to explore as we're finding with the newer scenes in Spain, South America & Asia. After all, a lot of classical music was just national composers using local, regional or national folk melodies & building upon them. Not as a rip-off, but as an influence.

MadcapLaughs84 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 21 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 658	Posted: February 18 2007 at 00:14
	Now, I got it, I think it would be Hard Rock, in fact some of them have classical influences, the influence of rock is always present with some tendency to complex structures as in jazz. That's what makes Prog Unique, the diversity of the genre don't let us to cathegorize all of the richness of the music.


terryl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 03 2007 Location: Thailand Status: Offline Points: 183	Posted: February 18 2007 at 05:05
	Hi, I'm Terryl from Thailand. Tough choice! Although I first discovered prog through heavy metal and now I love those hard rock prog like Neal Morse and Spock's Beard, I do have to vote for Jazz.

erik neuteboom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659	Posted: February 18 2007 at 05:43
	The symphonic structures of classical music can be traced in lots of progrock music, especially the Classic Seventies Prog like Yes, Genesis, ELP, Gentle Giant, Camel and Barclay James Harvest and all later inspired prog bands, from Novalis and early Marillion to Nexus and La Maschera Di Cera.

MattiR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1200	Posted: February 18 2007 at 06:05
	Classic.

magnus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 19 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 865	Posted: February 18 2007 at 09:52
	I think different kinds of music 'overlap' with different kinds of prog. F.ex is classical music somewhat close to symphonic prog, while thrash metal is very close to (a lot of) prog metal. It all depends on which sub-genre(which there are endlessly many of) of prog you compare it with.
	The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie

chessman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: December 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 974	Posted: February 18 2007 at 11:52
	I can't decide at the moment. There are a few genres that overlap. Classical of course is the obvious one, but there is also folk-prog, with Mostly Autumn and Jethro Tull, prog-blues, if you listen to Hackett's album, Blues With A Feeling, and Stolt's Wall Street Voodoo album. There is a new age overlap, especially with later Mike Oldfield albums. Prog-metal with DT, Opeth, and almost, at times, Porcupine Tree. Electronic with Tangerine Dream. Psychedelic-prog with early Floyd and, again, early PT - etc, etc. So it's hard to decide. Though classical is probably the way to vote overall.

Father Tiresias Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 23 2005 Location: Colombia Status: Offline Points: 101	Posted: February 18 2007 at 13:39
	Classical and Jazz mostly ( in that order ) used in a rock band format Edited by Father Tiresias - February 18 2007 at 13:40