Dream Theater "Systematic Chaos" Revealed

i like the cover art.
from what i've heard it's going to be a great album.

I actually find the album much more interesting now that I saw the cover. It looks great. I wish there was a bigger picture though.

johnobvious wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: Who cares about the cover,the music is all that matters!!!! I'm right with you Progtologist, but you and I both know by now that many people on this site are not content unless they can take people's creativity and express displeasure with it.  If someone creates something from nothing and dares to call it art, to many people that is only a way to open themselves up to being dismissed or worse, ridiculed.  It makes them feel important, as if their opinion is so refined and high-brow that if they haven't been appointed supreme critic of all, by gum, they should be.  To them, most people should not even try to create. This most often is not a conscience choice.  It is how society works anymore and many people are conditioned to have these types of reactions. In a world of political correctness where many people try and put a shiny veneer on all things, life is still about survival of the fittest.  If you are not the best, you lose.  There are so many meaningless threads on PA to back this up.  Which album/band/musician is better.  The constant need to determine "the best."   But you know what, in real life, I don't have to choose.  I can listen to Pink Floyd one minute and Yes the next and be totally content.  Maybe one is better than the other, but I can enjoy them both and not have to label one as "bad" and one as "good." Just live your life, take in what is around you and concentrate on things that are actually important.  The release of this album cover artwork should not determine whether your life just got better or worse.  Some person or people came up with the concept and created something that wasn't there yesterday.  I say good for them. I single no one out with these feelings.  It just seems fairly rampant around here on too many subjects.  If the music disappoints you, by all means pass that along in a constructive manner.  You paid for it (I hope) and are entitled.  But please temper your feelings about artwork or album titles or individuals in their attempt to 1)create something for you to enjoy and 2)make a living while doing it. (I now step off my soapbox)

The artwork has alot to do witht he album. I core tenant of the progressive rock movement was linking all aspects of art together into a cohesive whole. The visual is an important aspect of the art and a high concern for it was shown both in the elaborate stage shows and album covers. The artists obviously put considerable effort into choosing and designing appropriate cover art. So shouldn't it be something that we dedicate a proportional level of scrutiny to? Obviously the art in no way effects the music on the album, but the album is comprised more of the music contained in it.



"Just live your life, take in what is around you and concentrate on things that are actually important.  The release of this album cover artwork should not determine whether your life just got better or worse.  Some person or people came up with the concept and created something that wasn't there yesterday.  I say good for them."

If you really believed that then why are you posting a rather lengthy response. Why are you even a member of this board if you think that the discussion here is a distraction from more important things?

^ Interesting news.

I'll get the special edition, I just hope the album's good enough to justify the purchase. I'm pessimistic, based on the slow-but-steady decline I see post-SFAM, but I'm trying to keep my hopes up.

Then again, I almost always find long making-of documentaries very interesting, even if the music involved isn't exactly the best the band has done.

Steven Wilson guests on this album

80 minutes off good music > 40 minutes of good music

Problem is, Octavarium would probably have benefited with at least "Never Enough" getting chopped off.

R_DeNIRO wrote: The strange thing would be that the album didnt's cloks at 80 min. Dream Theater always make "full albums".

that's good news.....

have often wondered if the 'CD format' for todays albums hurts them in the end.  There are those who might say that 35 to 40 minutes of highly crafted music is better than trying to stretch finite musical ideas into 77 or 80 minutes. Especially for a band who aren't exactly new and flush with great, untapped ideas.

Probably the best cover art Dream Theater have ever had  , its not  Eloy  "Oceans"  or Yes "Classic Yes"  what this cover is about is just what the title of the CD conjures up  I think we are in for a special Dream Theater effort here folks ! ..  the cover art has the "vibe"  about it    

The only thing that I didn´t like very much was the length of the album because usually albums that run for almost 80 minutes tend to be a little too much. Not that it is too much music, but it is more difficult to keep being interesting till the end.

Anyway I hope it fits for my taste, since there are some that I like very much and others that I don´t like that much.

MajesterX wrote: [QUOTE=mcxwell](what are big ants doing in the city??) QUOTE] Why are there two guys, on on fire, shaking hands on WYWH????? Why Is there a woman with a fox head on Foxtrot???? Why is there a flying pig on Animals??? Why is the earth falling apart on fragile???? Get used to prog rock art work my friend! It almost never makes perfect sense when you look at it alone!