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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

In my opinion, Vapor Trails is the best album Rush ever recorded.  The vocal melodies have never been better, for one; and Geddy sounds like he's 25 again on the album.  I also think that the way they structured and arranged the compositions was the best they've ever done; instead of regular  repetitive structures, the band arranged the songs so that there was more variety in the repeating parts; song structure is fairly straightforward but they do a better job of not having all the verses/choruses sound alike.  Emotionally, the album connects on a very visceral level, and the gritty, distorted production actually adds to the emotional quality of the album, in my opinion.  The musicianship is incredible (Geddy's bass...wow) and they try things that they had never attempted before; I love the parts where Alex grinds on those distorted, dissonant harmonics.  Freeze is a highlight - brutal and melodic at the same time; Alex somehow manages to play one chord the whole time and make it sound good.  My favorite track is Peaceable Kingdom, the heaviest song Rush ever recorded; the throbbing guitar and bass just make me want to headbang and air drum...

And whatever you think of Vapor Trails, you can't argue with the fact that it is a totally unique album, both in Rush's catalog and in music in general.  Nothing like it has ever been recorded before or since.  In fact, Rush might be the only band ever capable of recording an album along those lines.  At once sophisticated and raw, grungy and proggy, layered and garage-sounding, it's a paradox and a masterpiece.

Very good points!  You might be changing my mind.  I totally agree about the emotionality of the album.  Not to mention the badass cover!
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Any of you Rushaholics read the 2112 comic book that comes with the remastered 5.1 CD and Blu ray boxset?

If you can, read it as you listen to the album - its quite a blast! Heres the comic book online! Enjoy this


heres the epic track online


also a review of the boxset is here



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Heres the Watchmaker's Edition of Clockwork Angels - complete with 7 CDs of music and narrative from the novel plus heaps of pictures.

Clockwork Angels: The Watchmakers Edition

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As to the clipping on Vapor Trails, I read somewhere (I think an interview with Alex, but I'm not sure) that some clipping went on during the recording. So they can clean it up a bit, but not entirely.

Personally I'd still love to have a remastered version if they could clean it up somewhat.
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

In my opinion, Vapor Trails is the best album Rush ever recorded.  The vocal melodies have never been better, for one; and Geddy sounds like he's 25 again on the album.  I also think that the way they structured and arranged the compositions was the best they've ever done; instead of regular  repetitive structures, the band arranged the songs so that there was more variety in the repeating parts; song structure is fairly straightforward but they do a better job of not having all the verses/choruses sound alike.  Emotionally, the album connects on a very visceral level, and the gritty, distorted production actually adds to the emotional quality of the album, in my opinion.  The musicianship is incredible (Geddy's bass...wow) and they try things that they had never attempted before; I love the parts where Alex grinds on those distorted, dissonant harmonics.  Freeze is a highlight - brutal and melodic at the same time; Alex somehow manages to play one chord the whole time and make it sound good.  My favorite track is Peaceable Kingdom, the heaviest song Rush ever recorded; the throbbing guitar and bass just make me want to headbang and air drum...

And whatever you think of Vapor Trails, you can't argue with the fact that it is a totally unique album, both in Rush's catalog and in music in general.  Nothing like it has ever been recorded before or since.  In fact, Rush might be the only band ever capable of recording an album along those lines.  At once sophisticated and raw, grungy and proggy, layered and garage-sounding, it's a paradox and a masterpiece.
 
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Freeze, Earthshine and Secret Touch for me are some of the best Rush songs. Secret Touch is a roller-coaster of a song...it pounds and pounds!! The intro guitar on Earthshine just tells you what to expect, it does not disappoint.
 
I'll never forgot the first time I heard the album...thinking how much Neil must have lost some ability, and then the beginning of One Little Victory proves me wrong!


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Any thoughts on why Alex doesn't solo on Vapor Trails?
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Vapor Trails is indeed great, but Peart hasn't been the animal he once was since the late 80's. One Little Victory isn't difficult.
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Vapor Trails is indeed great, but Peart hasn't been the animal he once was since the late 80's. One Little Victory isn't difficult.


The beginning was very good.....the song in general is just ok.

Age can do that to you, but at his age he is better than most, by a lot.


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Still playing the classics without flaw is indeed impressive, but i wouldn't dismiss other aged drummers like..

Dennis Chambers
Carter Beauford
Vinnie Colaiuta
Christian Vander
Danny Carey

who could be said to be surpassing his creativity currently. 

Neil Peart is the most influential drummer to me, and got me to start playing drums in the first place - and for that i'm forever grateful, but i'm not blind to that fact he has been disappointing creatively. For about 15 he produced albums that were the pinnacle of rock drumming which can't be topped, it's just sad to see my idol loose steam ;[

  
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^ Nah....actually NOPE!
I really enjoy Carter and Dennis playing.....but "current" creativity from Vander, Carey and Colaiuta. Couple yrs ago Vander put out that Coltrane memory album, maybe I am missing other work he has put out recently.
 
Don't see it......now Gavin Harrison and Marco Minneman, albeit younger do have the creativity flowing more than the others.


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Magma? New albums from 04,09, and last year. 

Carey's work on 10,000 Days is some of his best. 

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Been trying to work out Rush tablature - damned hard 

heres Working Man AS FAR AS I COULD WORK OUT - Is this right?

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|-||o-2--2-2-2-5------|-2--2-2-2-3--3h5----|
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|-----------------|-------------------|----------2--2--|-1-------------|
|-----------------|-------------------|----------0--2--|-2----5--7-----|
|-2--2-2-2-5------|-2--2-2-2-3--3h5---|-2--2-2-2----0--|-2----3--5-----|
|-0--0-0-0----5\--|-0--0-0-0--------0-|-0--0-0-0-------|-0---------7\--|
 
 
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|----------0--2--|-2----5--7---||------------------|------------------|
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|-0--0-0-0-------|-0---------5-||---7---7---7---7\-|---5---5---5---5\-|
 
 

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Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Any thoughts on why Alex doesn't solo on Vapor Trails?


I think it was just a different approach to songwriting that they wanted to try.  To me, it works; he always played a lot of solos (you could argue too many) on the other albums, and it's kind of refreshing to hear the customary solos replaced with instrumental breaks more focused on the entire band (Secret Touch and Ceiling Unlimited, especially).  He does have a solo-thingy on Earthshine, although it's less of a solo than a guitar quartet with three more of himself LOL.
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Any thoughts on why Alex doesn't solo on Vapor Trails?


I think it was just a different approach to songwriting that they wanted to try.  To me, it works; he always played a lot of solos (you could argue too many) on the other albums, and it's kind of refreshing to hear the customary solos replaced with instrumental breaks more focused on the entire band (Secret Touch and Ceiling Unlimited, especially).  He does have a solo-thingy on Earthshine, although it's less of a solo than a guitar quartet with three more of himself LOL.
 
three more of himself?? I don't think even he could put up with that!!
 
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Any thoughts on why Alex doesn't solo on Vapor Trails?


I think it was just a different approach to songwriting that they wanted to try.  To me, it works; he always played a lot of solos (you could argue too many) on the other albums, and it's kind of refreshing to hear the customary solos replaced with instrumental breaks more focused on the entire band (Secret Touch and Ceiling Unlimited, especially).  He does have a solo-thingy on Earthshine, although it's less of a solo than a guitar quartet with three more of himself LOL.
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Anybody buy the fairly new, 2112 Blu-ray and comic book edition of the album yet?
I just ordered mine today along with an upgrade of moving pictures in audiophile 5.1.

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^Sorta. Not the comic book edition but I bought just the Blu-Ray version for my dad. Don't want to spoil it, but they make a few cameos in the comic. 
Great audio, though I haven't actually compared the regular CD we own to the surround sound CD.
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I just got an issue of the 'Prog' magazine with an interesting few pages on Rush.  I wasn't aware they were fond of weed Headbanger.............they just seemed to play too well for that to have crossed my mind Confused........
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

I just got an issue of the 'Prog' magazine with an interesting few pages on Rush.  I wasn't aware they were fond of weed Headbanger.............they just seemed to play too well for that to have crossed my mind Confused........

I don't know about their current views, but I do remember reading about such things happening back in the late seventies.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

I just got an issue of the 'Prog' magazine with an interesting few pages on Rush.  I wasn't aware they were fond of weed Headbanger.............they just seemed to play too well for that to have crossed my mind Confused........


Yeah. It enchanted and enhanced Neil's lyric content.



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