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Prog-man 
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 Posted: August 29 2007 at 13:01 |
- I'm sorry, but ... where is Paperlate? (The trumpets....aarghh!!!). I think no Reply at all is a bad song, but it's better, after all (and in the live version there are no trumpets!!...)
- Who dunnit? That is not a song. it's simply a session joke (with Mike playing drums). It doesn't count...
- More fool me and That's all are not prog, something different, but they're not bad songs. Some folk tunes...
- Wot Gorilla is a great song (I suposse influenced by Phil's work with Brand X).
- Follow you, follow me it's a simple but effctive radio-friendly pop song. I don't like it. But it was the beginning of the muted Rutherford guitars (he named that "digital cuts"), a resource that has been present in so many songs (with Genesis & the Mechanics)...
- Turn it on again is classic. Good & simple song (in 9/8). It was covered by a thousend of bands (like Dream Theater), who recongnized his value.
- I like Me and Sarah Jane. Is different, but atmospheric and melancholic. Not a masterpiece, but nice.
- Abacab is excellent. Obviously, you can feel the 80's electronic sound influence in it. But dou you remember the live version (from Three Sides Live) and the final solo? Oh, God!! Cool!!!
- Anything she does is horrible. Is a song for Phil's solo carreer setlist! I only like the video (featuring Benny Hill).
- Some ballads of the poll are good stuff: Your own special way, Never a time, In too deep, Shipwrecked, If that's what you need (both with great vocal performances of Ray).
- Not about us is not bad. Is really excellent. It's a a semi-acoustic ballad with real feeling. That was something new for Genesis, and I really enjoyed the cover from RPW with Ray Wilson (live). That would be a good direction for the 3rd. Genesis Era.
- I disliked Tell me why when I listened it for the 1st. time. But now I think it's a good song, with deep lyrics. Not bad at all.
- Congo is exactly the thing that Phil's Era fans (and the Record Company) wanted. Or better... Good song. It should have been a hit.
- Never a time is strange. Not good, not too bad. Listenable, at all.
- Invisible touch is really awful!! I can't listen that song!!
I would like to add another songs that I don’t like (including some b-sides and non-officially edited songs): Illegal Alien, Silver Rainbow, Harlequin, Small talk, Naaminanu, Match of the day, Papa he said, I'd rather by you, Hearts on fire (the two last are really unlistenable...).
Genesis is my all time favourite band (along with Porcupine Tree).
But they wrote an incredible quantity of material, and is really insignificant what I dislike of it. Sorry again, but I can’t hate their songs. Simply, I don’t like a few (of hundreds!!!), and I skip them.
I voted (from the list): Anything She does. I really dislike that one. Bad music, bad lyrics (OK the video maybe funny, but the song is the worst of the list).
Special mentions: I dislike more these songs (in order): Illegal Alien, Paperlate, I'd rather by you, Hearts on fire, Invisible Touch.
Edited by Prog-man - August 29 2007 at 13:08
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:42 |
 Tapfret wrote:
iguana wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
I equate it to modes of locomotion. Once you learn to walk, you rarely go back to crawling. Unless you need to get into some tight area where you can't really stand to do some job that requires the crawl function. Pop songs are like crawling, prog is lke walking. Once you have discovered prog or jazz or some other thoughtful music you only need pop for the odd job like dancing with a hot chick or something. Otherwise, what the hell's the point? |
oh, my, it's quotes like these why us prog fans cannot walk around in public
without people jeering and pointing the finger at us... |
Funny, I am almost never jeered or pointed at. Are you? |
I don't know about that, it seems like an unfair metaphor; as though you are trying to emply that anyone with different musical tastes than your own are inferior to you.
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:38 |
illegal alien is definetly the only one I truly hate.
Why is it not on the list?
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If it ain't broke don't break it.
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infandous
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:29 |
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Hmm, aside from Wot Gorrila (which is a great instrumental and shouldn't be in this list I don't think), I don't like any of these songs really. Can't say I "hate" any of them, though Invisible Touch and Illigal Alien come very close.
Someone mentioned Harlequin...........I think that song is excellent.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:28 |
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Either Who Dunnit, Anything She Does or In Too Deep (this should have been on a Collins solo album).
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Tapfret
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 12:20 |
iguana wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
I equate it to modes of locomotion. Once you learn to walk, you rarely go back to crawling. Unless you need to get into some tight area where you can't really stand to do some job that requires the crawl function. Pop songs are like crawling, prog is lke walking. Once you have discovered prog or jazz or some other thoughtful music you only need pop for the odd job like dancing with a hot chick or something. Otherwise, what the hell's the point? |
oh, my, it's quotes like these why us prog fans cannot walk around in public
without people jeering and pointing the finger at us... |
Funny, I am almost never jeered or pointed at. Are you?
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jimidom
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 11:19 |
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Who Dunnit
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"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 11:12 |
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Three Sides Live and the first album are both shockingly underrepresented in this poll. And surely Harlequin deserved a mention.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 09:31 |
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Only listened to their big albums...so More Fool Me it is
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A B Negative
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 07:54 |
sheeves wrote:
i actually love all of those songs, pretty much except for who dunnit, but i think that one is ok still
the one song that i hate by genesis is Mama |
Mama is the only Genesis song I'll turn off if it comes on the radio. I can't stand the "ha ha heh heh" part.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Man Erg
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 07:50 |
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On the list,'Me and Sarah Jane'
But I really do not like 'Ballad of Big'
Those lyrics! Arrrgh!
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 Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Passionist
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 07:44 |
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I feel ashamed when people hear Who Dunnit, and know that I listen to Genesis. But now you all made me want to listen to Duke again...
/me digs the album from the shelf
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Jared
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 07:26 |
I'm sorry, but 'Who Dunnit?' is an offence to the sensibilites...and for me, 'wins' (or is that 'loses'?) by a country mile.... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Zargus
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 07:20 |
More fool me, Its not becuas its a simple pop tune i dont like it. Its caus its a very bad song and what its doing on SEBTP i have no idea, filler song if there ever was one.
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iguana
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 07:09 |
Tapfret wrote:
I equate it to modes of locomotion. Once you learn to walk, you rarely go back to crawling. Unless you need to get into some tight area where you can't really stand to do some job that requires the crawl function. Pop songs are like crawling, prog is lke walking. Once you have discovered prog or jazz or some other thoughtful music you only need pop for the odd job like dancing with a hot chick or something. Otherwise, what the hell's the point? |
oh, my, it's quotes like these why us prog fans cannot walk around in public without people jeering and pointing the finger at us...
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Casartelli
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 04:34 |
The two worst Genesis songs are not in the list (i.e. *ll*g*l *l**n and * c*n't d*nc*), so I went with the monumentally insipid In Too Deep. This one takes the cake just before Whodunnit, which has a kind of fun in it, it just lasts a bit too long (can you imagine, three entire minutes of fun?).
Harbinger or not, I think Your Own Special Way is a beautiful song and I'm a bit sad it's on this list and even more sad that it's 4th position in the number of votes now. Wot Gorilla is excellent as well. Some other songs are likable as well (Me And Sarah Jane, That's All and of course the three Calling All Stations songs (especially Not About Us)).
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Tapfret
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 04:27 |
russellk wrote:
I don't get this hatred of pop songs for their own sake. However, I reserve a special place of distaste for 'Illegal Alien.' Racist and in such poor taste, the track makes me cringe. The music is poor too. It's the only GENESIS track I'll skip. |
I equate it to modes of locomotion. Once you learn to walk, you rarely go back to crawling. Unless you need to get into some tight area where you can't really stand to do some job that requires the crawl function. Pop songs are like crawling, prog is lke walking. Once you have discovered prog or jazz or some other thoughtful music you only need pop for the odd job like dancing with a hot chick or something. Otherwise, what the hell's the point?
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Bastille Dude
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 04:06 |
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DEATH TO FALSE PROG!
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richardh
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 03:58 |
Invisible Touch .Horrible pop drivel that hasn't improved with age (some pop does).
Who Dunnit? actually makes me laugh.It was obviously intended as a joke  |
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Hercules
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Posted: August 29 2007 at 03:57 |
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I don't like some of what they did after Hackett left (I think he affected the band more than Gabriel when he left) but they did some good pop stuff amongst the dung.
For me, More Fool Me has to get the vote because it sticks out like a sore willy on the Selling England album. Wrong singer, wrong atmosphere, wrong subject matter. Foul.
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