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micky 
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 Posted: November 17 2007 at 08:50 |
 markosherrera wrote:
darqdean wrote:
markosherrera wrote:
Split Enz
xtc
City
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Are you nominating Split Enz and City to be move out of the Archive completely?
XTC are not in the archive at all, are you asking for them to be added? |
for me Split Enz is a good group ,not too prog for be considered
prog related,I Believe that I saw XTC in one list of P.A ,and XTC
IS NEW WAVE 80,S not prog,and City is a poor band imho...so thats bands
must be removed |
if I may intrude... no where was it asked to state what groups you feel were mistakenly added here.
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MonkeyphoneAlex
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:13 |
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I've always thought of Wishbone Ash as more than prog-related. Perhaps Prog-folk or Crossover is their true home.
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"Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST."
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Lady In Black
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:16 |
MonkeyphoneAlex wrote:
I've always thought of Wishbone Ash as more than prog-related. Perhaps Prog-folk or Crossover is their true home. |
Definitely or PR or better HP!
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:16 |
darqdean wrote:
Vangelis - there have been a few threads on him stating that he has produced 3 or 4 100% prog albums, unfortunately he has made many many more albums that are not (much like J M Jarre). And as a fan of Larry Fast's Synergy I don't fully understand why they are PR and not Electronic Prog, but accept that Team's better knowledge on such matters.
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not to mention it would be awkward to put an electronic artist (even if he's done some electronic rock) together with rockers.  I always thought it's "Electronic Prog or bust" for electronic artists.  (but, hey, who knows what's the secret essence of Xover...I wouldn't mind Vangelis' prog albums to be recognized as prog...but it just feels a bit awkward, like I said...)
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Prog-jester
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:18 |
DISCIPLINE - from Neo to Eclectic (VDGG and KC influences dominate over obvious GENESIS ones) THE AMBER LIGHT - from PR to Psych or Crossover, but Raff rejected it recently 
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:18 |
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Lady In Black
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:18 |
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If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad?
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:19 |
Prog-jester wrote:
DISCIPLINE - from Neo to Eclectic (VDGG and KC influences dominate over obvious GENESIS ones)
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oh, we can check it. I don't know anything about this band. 
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micky
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:21 |
Lady In Black wrote:
If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog
(don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are
totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad? |
don't be mad.... it's a rickin music website... you know.... fun?
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Dean
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:22 |
The day Mr Hammill releases a Crossover album is the day I hang up my progboots 
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What?
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micky
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:33 |
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Raff
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:36 |
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Re Wishbone Ash: I only own Argus (fantastic album BTW), and know a handful of other tracks by them - not enough to judge if they belong in HP. Their output is quite extensive, but they could qualify for being moved if they had another two or three albums more or less in the same vein. Thoughts?
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micky
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:37 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
Re Wishbone Ash: I only own Argus (fantastic
album BTW), and know a handful of other tracks by them - not enough to
judge if they belong in HP. Their output is quite extensive, but they
could qualify for being moved if they had another two or three albums
more or less in the same vein. Thoughts?
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that is the only one by them I have as well... but have heard their inclusion here was based on that album alone... hmmm....
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Dean
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:47 |
Prog-jester wrote:
THE AMBER LIGHT - from PR to Psych or Crossover, but Raff rejected it recently
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I've listened to The Amber Light on MySpace and do not feel they fit Xover.
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What?
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Ely78
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:47 |
micky wrote:
Lady In Black wrote:
If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad? |
don't be mad.... it's a rickin music website... you know.... fun?
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I speak for me and my mother (also for Mandrakeroot): It's always the same story: to open the boundaries for certain bands or to put barbed wire and electricity and the police?
In my opinion (forged by my convinction with added by Andrea and Sara) 10CC are melodic Crossover.
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When the love becomes poetry, distant from the eyes
(Quando l'Amore Diventa poesia/ Lontano Dagli occhi [Aphrodite's Child)
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micky
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:51 |
Ely78 wrote:
micky wrote:
Lady In Black wrote:
If ELO are Xover and
Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I
think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad? |
don't be mad.... it's a rickin music website... you know.... fun?
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I speak for me and my mother (also for Mandrakeroot): It's always
the same story: to open the boundaries for certain bands or
to put barbed wire and electricity and the police?
In my opinion (forged by my convinction with added by Andrea and Sara) 10CC are melodic Crossover. |
and we'll take a look at them... let me remind you... this thread is
for suggestions.. you don't need to be frustrated... we all have
personal lives ..and the time here... we give freely..but it is limited
micky wrote:
Moving groups out, is not exactly a priority of the genre teams. .since
we are bombarded with new suggestions for addtion, those that
come through the Band Submissions Team, threads here, our fellow
collabs directly, or of course our our explorations. However I am
curious and would like to involve the general forum.. .what groups
currently in PR do you think should be moved to other sub-genres.. and
which ones.
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clarke2001
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 15:33 |
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There's no way to move out Black Sabbath to heavy prog, simply because they aren't prog. Also Iron Maiden should stay here...
Bijelo Dugme could fit into heavy prog though. Wishbone Ash too. I'm not sure about Blue Oyster Cult...
Barrett could easlily go to psych...
Jeff Beck to jazz/rock or eclectic, damn!
Kate Bush and Josipa Lisac to crossover...
Fairport Convention and Magna Carta have enough credibility for prog folk...
Vangelis and Jarre fully deserve electronic.
IMHO, of course.
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Raff
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 15:46 |
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I am afraid the Genre Teams would refuse most of those suggestions. Personally, I don't think Fairport Convention are more prog than Iron Maiden, but of course this is just my opinion - and as far as I know there is opposition to their being moved to PF.
As to Vangelis and Jarre, forget about that - there is no way they'll get into Electronic.
Blue Oyster Cult are one of my favourite bands, but they are OK where they are. I wouldn't hold my breath about moving Jeff Beck either - if he had been considered suitable for JR/F, he would have been added there. As regards Wishbone Ash, please check my earlier post.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 17:10 |
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Personally (i.e. not as an Admin), I reckon Wishbone Ash are fine in PR. I have (and have reviewed) most of their albums. There is no doubt they should be here, but I believe PR is ideal for them.
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micky
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:01 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Personally (i.e. not as an Admin), I reckon Wishbone Ash are fine in
PR. I have (and have reviewed) most of their albums. There is no doubt
they should be here, but I believe PR is ideal for them. |
for what's it's worth.. I think there is general agreeement on that...
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