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markosherrera
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Topic: Why are groups doing whole albums of cover tunes? Posted: December 06 2007 at 15:46 |
why are groups doing whole albums of cover tunes?
it seems like every time you look around a group is doing a whole album of cover tunes. tesla just did it,ozzy osbourne did it here recently,,Allen -Lande,Lana Lane,iced earth,wasn't long ago aerosmith did it,guns n roses did one,metallica has done it,rod stewart is doing it,poison just did,queensryche is releasing one,styx did one if i'm correct.do bands do this when they are dead creatively? Edited by markosherrera - December 06 2007 at 15:47 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:12 |
Allen - Lande? When did they ever record a cover album ... or Iced Earth for that matter?
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rushfan4
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:16 |
Iced Earth did Tribute to the Gods which consisted of songs from Kiss, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Blue Oyster Cult, as well as a few other songs.
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sean
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:19 |
I think it's mainly that they're out of ideas or desperately need money in a short amount of time. i still have yet to hear a cover album that i've really liked.
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rushfan4
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:22 |
Styx did do one recently, The Big Bang Theory. I believe that Tommy Shaw and Jack Blades also recently released an album of cover tunes. Rush released Feedback, an EP of cover tunes. Supposedly, Rush did it because they wanted to tour for their 30th anniversary but had not come up with enough new studio material so they wanted to give some "new" music for their fans to look forward to hearing while they were on tour.
I think that the main reason that bands are doing this is strictly commercial. Whether it is to fulfill a final album on a record contract, or because the record company sees that all these other bands are doing it quite successfully so this band should do it too. I think that it is an interesting marketing tool as well. If a band does a cover of a well-known song and it gets some radio play, it might appeal to fans of that well-known band and thus bring in new fans to the band playing the cover song.
I suppose that their are other bands that just do it because they enjoyed playing these songs and wanted to share their versions of them with their fans. Edited by rushfan4 - December 06 2007 at 16:24 |
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sean
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:34 |
the irritating thing is that a lot of people think that it is the original version and the djs don't let them know that it is a cover. the worst instance of this i remember is when the ataris did "the boys of summer" and nobody knew who don henley was. that also happens a lot in rap when they sample their beat from a classic song. |
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laplace
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:42 |
perhaps they want to pay homage to the bands that inspired them? cover albums usually bore me to death but in the rare case of a popular band actually being into obscure music, a cover album would bring interesting influences to light...
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rushfan4
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:49 |
I used to hear the cover song of "the boys of summer" at the gym every so often since they pretty much play the same recordings repeatedly, but their recordings don't announce who are actually playing the songs, so I never knew who that actually was doing the cover.
Personally, I tend to enjoy hearing cover songs, probably because there is usually a familiarity to the songs and it is sometimes cool to hear a different take on the songs, or at least a different voice singing it, but there have been some pretty horrendous cover songs as well.
Some of Van Halen's most successful songs were cover songs. Tesla's version of Signs was a bigger hit than the original from the Five Man Electric Band (I am pretty certain that just about every time I heard that song on the radio the DJ's mentioned that it was from the Five Man Electric Band).
Usually new original songs are the preference, but sometimes it is fun to hear cover songs too. Of course I know that I am kind of odd man out with this feeling on this site, but what else is new.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:00 |
Thanks ... I wasn't aware of that. Then again I never was much of a fan ... |
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Easy Livin
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:06 |
Most of the time it is the record company who demand it. Record companies are of the opinion that albums with songs which are familiar will sell better.
You'll often find that the band or artists is not too keen on the idea, but if their previous album has bombed, their bargaining position with the company is weakened.
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socialcrawl
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Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:51 |
a lot of bands do this, sublime did this too. I feel like people who make music LOVE music, and feel like they can contribute a new way of singing or portraying a classic song. And its easy of course. And its already popular so its pretty easy for people to get hooked into it.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 03:05 |
Some are quite good - Dub Side of the Moon, for example.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 03:09 |
It's an easy way to fulfil a contractual obligation, as was the case with Fish.
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clarke2001
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 03:20 |
Being a musician my self daydreaming about a musical career and a number of albums I would like to do a cover album myself and to do it tastefully, to show the respect the artists who influenced my life and promote them...and the show to the (imaginary) fanbase what is going on and where are the roots of my ideas.
Of course, in the real world things are often much less idealistic...
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toolis
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 03:50 |
many points of view... i too think that most of the cover albums serve contract purposes.. however, one single cover in a studio album is sth i approve... moreover, the weirder the choice the better... on the other hand, bands like Rush have nothing to prove and no record company breathing down their neck... also, tribute albums are always interesting, regardless if they are good or not... Edited by toolis - December 07 2007 at 03:52 |
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 14:58 |
oh my god, that album is brilliant! Who wooda thunk that Dark Side of the Moon was the perfect album to make a reggae cover of? and this is just a guess, but by Allen - Lande, does markosherrera possibly mean Jorn Lande? Because he released a couple albums this year with cover songs, previously unreleased songs and different versions of songs he had already done etc... |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 18:51 |
Easy All Stars' Radiodread (covers of OK Computer) almost works as well as Dubside, but a couple of tunes don't hold it.
Listening to David Bowie with Dave Gilmour on Arnold Layne last night - it was interesting to hear Floyd part sung in the voice of Ian Drury - and that brought Bowie's Pin-ups album to mind and when was that recorded. Talking Dave Gilmour, Paul Rodger's Muddy Water Blues tribute worked pretty well - especially Gilmour's guitarwork on one tune. Tributes should add something without drifting too far from the originals , to show the band can arrange sympathetically wrt the composer's intentions - A Perfect Circle throwing down a challenge with their last album and also Mahavishnu Project in the field of jazz rock fusion. Not being a fan of Yngwie Malmsteen I have to say I like most of his Inspirations - although doesn't he make Kansas sound like Rainbow.... |
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micky
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 18:58 |
damn.... campaigning for the chairman of the PA's Cynic's Committee are we.... some times groups just want to be a bit of homage to their heros and infuences... don't know many starving unknown artists doing cover albums... or record companies producing them. Record companies are not exactly known for taking the finanical concerns of a group into interest.... if they are struggling.. and sales are down.... they get the frickin boot. People aren't buying albums like they once did.... who is going to buy a cover album by a band on the way down... record companies know the answer... very very few. the fans of the group. Most bands who do.... have the leverage to do so... both financial.. for these albums are for the fans.. and fans alone... and creatively.. again. because the record company knows.. these albums are for the fans.. and the fans alone. Edited by micky - December 07 2007 at 19:00 |
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Philéas
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 20:27 |
To answer the question: Because it's great fun (for them).
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Dean
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Posted: December 07 2007 at 21:10 |
Dubside works because it is Dub (albeit completely re-recorded), which as a reggae sub-genre has stylistic simularities with prog. Radiodread by contrast, is more straight reggae & ska, which I think is it's weakness as it maintains standard song structures and just adds a reggae beat - if the All Stars' had made a dub version it would have worked better.
So I guess I kind of dissagree that covers shouldn't drift too far from the original - I don't mind if the cover is completely flipped on it head as long as the final product is interesting. Dream Theater's cover of DSotM is fair, but doesn't excite me like the original because it tries a little too hard to be the original.
My favourite album of covers is and probably will remain, Through The Looking Glass by the Banshees - (Trust In Me was the only track on that album I didn't possess the original version of) - an album that reveals post-punk's roots delved into psychedelia, blues, krautrock, glam, art rock and disney.
I think that albums like Dubside, Looking Glass and Pinups show that these cover albums are honest homages to influential music, rather than cynical rip-offs. I agree with Micky that they are for fans of the recording artist, but as The All Stars have shown, they can appeal to fans of the original music too.
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