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Topic: Cozy Powell Posted: August 02 2005 at 12:06 |
Blacksword wrote:
I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe.
All sh!t IMO...
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I couldn't agree more. I loved Whitesnake and I saw them live with Cozy at Donington in 1983 - absolutely great show!!! The poodle years, though, ruined it all for me, especially the awful Slip of the Tongue - where Vai was totally out of place.
BTW, strange as it may seem, in a book I have on Prog Rock (The Progressive Rock Files by Jerry Lucky) Cozy is listed among the over 1000 prog acts at the end of the book. I own all three solo albums by him and they contain really great music, even though it may not be prog in the strictest sense. Anyway, if Queen and Asia are included, why not Cozy, whose solo work was definitely less commercial than theirs?
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The Rock
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 11:41 |
Maike wrote:
Whitesnake has some prog elements in their music and Mr Coverdale has always been able to put on a decent band, some of them very proggers indeed
Steve Vai Don Ayrey Reb Beach John Sykes Cozy Powell Jon Lord Ian paice Micky Moody (no prog at all, but great blues player)
and here´s a small list of songs that blink an eye to prog:
In the Still of the night Judgement day Crying in the rain wings of the storm Sweet Lady luck Slip of the tongue Sailling ships
But hey... im not promoting the Snakes to the progarchives |
Didn't Neil Murray of National Health played with them too?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:32 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Cozy Powell solo? Yes!
Over The Top is a great album, definitely with prog hallmarks. I love the title track! Only years later that I understood the pun. Great, with even Tschaikowsky's Overture 1812. How much more over the top can you get?
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Well add him to the Archives then!
Seems like a lot of effort to me!
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Who, Tschaikowsky or Powell? I think the first one has more chance .
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:29 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Cozy Powell solo? Yes!
Over The Top is a great album, definitely with prog hallmarks. I love the title track! Only years later that I understood the pun. Great, with even Tschaikowsky's Overture 1812. How much more over the top can you get?
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Well add him to the Archives then!
Seems like a lot of effort to me!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:23 |
Cozy Powell solo? Yes!
Over The Top is a great album, definitely with prog hallmarks. I love the title track! Only years later that I understood the pun. Great, with even Tschaikowsky's Overture 1812. How much more over the top can you get?
Edited by Moogtron III
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Maike
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 10:18 |
I dont think Whitesnake was poodle rock at all. Poison, Motley Crue in the 80's, Ratt, Europe and some others I agree Poodle Rock indeed
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:09 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe.
All sh!t IMO...
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Couldn't agree less
1987 and Slip Of The Tongue are excellent albums. Def Leppeard are great too! All great IMO
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'and I want' 'and I know' 'animal'
ooh, no please dont go there, snowy!
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Sorry, but Hysteria iis a classic album....Pyromania IS better though!
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Yes, Pyromania is a marginally better album, and I have the utmost respect for their drummer for overcoming the loss of his arm.
But 'hard rock/metal' died in about 1984 IMO.. I've never liked thrash, with the exception of a few Metallica albums, so for me it was prog all the way therafter, and anything else outside the metal arena that took my fancy.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:03 |
Blacksword wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe.
All sh!t IMO...
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Couldn't agree less
1987 and Slip Of The Tongue are excellent albums. Def Leppeard are great too! All great IMO
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'and I want' 'and I know' 'animal'
ooh, no please dont go there, snowy!
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Sorry, but Hysteria iis a classic album....Pyromania IS better though!
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:00 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe.
All sh!t IMO...
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Couldn't agree less
1987 and Slip Of The Tongue are excellent albums. Def Leppeard are great too! All great IMO
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'and I want' 'and I know' 'animal'
ooh, no please dont go there, snowy!
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:56 |
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:52 |
Snow Dog wrote:
This was a great line up of Whitesnake! Steve Vai doesn't need to suck in his cheeks anyway. He's as skinny as....as.......as.......a skinny thing | I know it's a small picture, but Steve Vai looks like Alice Cooper's ugly brother! Incidentally, Vai admitted after leaving Whitesnake that he was only there to try to plug his own solo album... artistic integrity, eh?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:48 |
Blacksword wrote:
I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe.
All sh!t IMO...
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Couldn't agree less
1987 and Slip Of The Tongue are excellent albums. Def Leppeard are great too! All great IMO
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:45 |
I really liked their early albums, especially 'Ready 'n Willing' The poodle era was a tragedy. That was the tail end of the 80's and most music in the mainstream was terrible at that point. Rock was represented to the masses by Def Leppard, Bon Jovi and Europe.
All sh!t IMO...
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:43 |
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Maike
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:41 |
Whitesnake has some prog elements in their music and Mr Coverdale has always been able to put on a decent band, some of them very proggers indeed Steve Vai Don Ayrey Reb Beach John Sykes Cozy Powell Jon Lord Ian paice Micky Moody (no prog at all, but great blues player) and here´s a small list of songs that blink an eye to prog: In the Still of the night Judgement day Crying in the rain wings of the storm Sweet Lady luck Slip of the tongue Sailling ships But hey... im not promoting the Snakes to the progarchives
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:35 |
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sigod
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:47 |
Dick Heath wrote:
No No No
Again a suggestion for breeching the dyke, it'll be Whitesnake next.
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Whitesnake not prog, what about 'In The Still Of The Night'?
80's Poodle Rock, don't ya just love it!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:25 |
Tony R wrote:
Over The Top was proggy.It had jazz rock elements,but with the accent firmly on the "rock"
There title track is Prog Rock,it even includes a re-working of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture.
Based on the Queen II example,Cozy Powell could be added.
As an aside,whilst I love Rainbow and anything that pairs up Don Airey and Gary Moore,I always thought that Cozy was over-rated.I feel that his reputation was built on "Dance With the Devil" which was a huge hit in the British Singles Chart.Famous for his double bass drum work (?!) which was pulsating if nothing else,his overall drum work could be relatively ordinary and unimaginative.As someone here has already said,he was like Bonham-lite.
Seemed like a nice bloke though.
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I would go further and say that "Over The Top" is a genuine Prog album in entirety, rather than the sham of Prog that is Queen II!
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Tony R
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:21 |
Over The Top was proggy.It had jazz rock elements,but with the accent firmly on the "rock"
There title track is Prog Rock,it even includes a re-working of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture.
Based on the Queen II example,Cozy Powell could be added.
As an aside,whilst I love Rainbow and anything that pairs up Don Airey and Gary Moore,I always thought that Cozy was over-rated.I feel that his reputation was built on "Dance With the Devil" which was a huge hit in the British Singles Chart.Famous for his double bass drum work (?!) which was pulsating if nothing else,his overall drum work could be relatively ordinary and unimaginative.As someone here has already said,he was like Bonham-lite.
Seemed like a nice bloke though.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 06:11 |
So what about it then?
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