Nu-Prog/New Prog/Alterna-Prog

Recently I've noticed that an increasing number of prog bands have incorporated elements of alternative rock into their music. After doing some research, I discovered that this style of music is often called Nu-Prog, New Prog, and Alterna-Prog. I've noticed that this has not yet been added as a sub genre on the site, and I feel it should be given the increasing significance of this new sub genre. I've seen bands of this style scattered between various sections of the site, and bands fitting within this category include: Coheed & Cambria, Muse, Radiohead (maybe), Porcupine Tree (newer stuff, anyway), Pure Reason Revolution, Oceansize, Mew, Doves, The Mystery Jets, The Mars Volta (though they probably belong in Eclectic Prog more than this category), Frost*, and others. I hope that this sub genre will be added to the website for a more accurate organization of bands.

And then we add the Flaming Lips and PA goes up in flames . Although they are one of today's groups that stand out from the mass of shapeless and formulaic rockers. 

Seriously, no one use the terms "nu prog/new prog/alternative" ever again on this forum please.
It's one of the worst terms to describe any music genre ever, christ.
It's a term coined most likely by idiots who can't be bothered using proper genre terms.
Calling Muse and Coheed and Cambria "Nu Prog" is about as useful and specific as calling Dream Theater and Isis prog metal bands

^True

^ we try

Personally, I hate the tag 'nu', and I'd rather not see it here. Moreover, I really don't think we need another subgenre, especially one that is not really a subgenre, but more of a convenient descriptor for bands that don't have much in common but the fact they have been active in the past few years.

Nu prog - not a good, novel or even new idea. Adding more subcategories in general isn't - we could soon find ourselves with Christian Prog, Spanish prog, Scandinavian prog, neo-classical prog, and God knows how many tags for people who need to set a new tag on anything that isn't a total replica of what has been done before.

Ever seen the metal categories at rateyourmusic.com? A perfect example of where I think we really, really, really don't want to go...

I, personally, think that both creating a subgenre and the tag itself are useless. Firstly because the bands are very diverse, and i don't think you guys would like to create a genre as unmanageable (and aimless) as Art Rock was and, secondly, that sub genre would also bring bands to the site that are even further away from any definition (the band X is similar to the band V, which is similar to the band U, but none of them are similar to the band A, which was the original focus of the genre). That can surely happen due to 2 facts: 1) this site's inclusive politic and 2) we don't know WHAT 'nu'-prog sounds like exactly, we only have a vague idea about it (besides, one (1) nu-genre is enough in the world, being that the nu-metal).

CCVP wrote: I, personally, think that both creating a subgenre and the tag itself are useless. Firstly because the bands are very diverse, and i don't think you guys would like to create a genre as unmanageable (and aimless) as Art Rock was and, secondly, that sub genre would also bring bands to the site that are even further away from any definition (the band X is similar to the band V, which is similar to the band U, but none of them are similar to the band A, which was the original focus of the genre). That can surely happen due to 2 facts: 1) this site's inclusive politic and 2) we don't know WHAT 'nu'-prog sounds like exactly, we only have a vague idea about it (besides, one (1) nu-genre is enough in the world, being that the nu-metal).

The already implemented "crossover-prog" is even vaguer.  It includes much of new-prog, other more popular genres fused with prog. It creates a pretty vague sound, but I don't think it's a problem.

kybrdwzrd wrote: Recently I've noticed that an increasing number of prog bands have incorporated elements of alternative rock into their music. After doing some research, I discovered that this style of music is often called Nu-Prog, New Prog, and Alterna-Prog. I've noticed that this has not yet been added as a sub genre on the site, and I feel it should be given the increasing significance of this new sub genre. I've seen bands of this style scattered between various sections of the site, and bands fitting within this category include: Coheed & Cambria, Muse, Radiohead (maybe), Porcupine Tree (newer stuff, anyway), Pure Reason Revolution, Oceansize, Mew, Doves, The Mystery Jets, The Mars Volta (though they probably belong in Eclectic Prog more than this category), Frost*, and others. I hope that this sub genre will be added to the website for a more accurate organization of bands.

I can see where you are coming from, but to be entirely honest with you, my definition of this would be:

an incresing number of new rock/alternative rock bands have recently incorporated prog elements in their music... and that is generally my opinion for most of these bands (not PT for sure)