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Epignosis
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Hail to power and glory's way!
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Slartibartfast
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And they are all really so sincere, so sin. http://electoral-vote.com/ Haley Wins in South Carolina PermalinkNikki Haley won the South Carolina Republican nomination for governor over Rep. Gresham Barrett (R-SC) by about 62% to 38%. She will instantly discussed as a kingmaker or even potential Vice Presidential material for 2012, as if 2 years as governor of a small state qualifies one to be President. On the otheer hand, that is also Sarah Palin's curriculum vitae and she is endlessly discussed as a potential nominee. Marshall to Face Burr in North Carolina PermalinkIn the Democratic senatorial primary in North Carolina, Secretary of State Elaine Marshall beat the establishment candidate Cal Cunningham. Marshall will face Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) in November. This is the famous cursed seat, which has flipped parties five times in a row. Marshall is aiming to make that six in a row. Lee Wins in Utah PermalinkAt the state Republican convention, Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT) came in a distant third and therefore did not make it to the primary, an extreme rarity for a sitting senator to be rejected by his own party at a state convention. The primary was held yesterday and attorney Mike Lee won it narrowly, 51% to 48%. He will face Democrat Sam Granato in November and is the heavy favorite to replace Bennett in this reddest of red states. Edited by Slartibartfast - June 24 2010 at 06:37 |
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Slartibartfast
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Oh, no no no, I'm totally optimistic that things can actually get much much much worse. U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study Bubu butt butt, how can this be when the right wing pundits and politicians say we have the best health care system in the world? I'm adding a link to an opinion piece. If you don't know Hightower in this country, you should get to know him: Jim Hightower: Enter the Real Populists Excerpt: "Few people today call themselves populists, but I think most are. I'm not talking about the recent political outbursts by confused, used and abused tea-bag ranters who've been organized by corporate front groups to spread a hatred of government. Rather, I mean the millions of ordinary Americans in every state who're battling the real power that's running roughshod over us: out-of-control corporations. With their oceans of money and their hired armies of lobbyists and lawyers, these self-serving, autocratic entities operate from faraway executives suites and Washington backrooms to rig the economic and governmental rules so that they can capture an ever-bigger share of America's money and power. You can yell yourself red-faced at Congress critters you don't like and demand a government so small that it'd fit in the backroom of Billy Bob's Bait Shop and Sushi Stand, but you won't be touching the corporate and financial powers behind the throne. In fact, weak government is the political wet dream of corporate chieftains, which is why they're so ecstatic to have the tea party out front for them. But the real issue isn't small government, it's good government. (Can I get an amen from Gulf Coast fishing families on that!?) It's necessary to restate the solid principles of populism and reassert its true spirit, because both are now being severely perverted by corporate manipulators and a careless media establishment. To these debasers of the language, any politicos or pundits who tap into any level of popular anger (toward Barack Obama, liberals, the IRS, poor people, unions, gays, immigrants, Hollywood, community organizers, environmentalists et al.) get a peel-off "populist" label slapped onto their lapels -- even when their populist pose is funded by and operates as a front for one or another corporate interest. That's not populism, it's rank hucksterism -- disguising plutocrats as champions of the people." Edited by Slartibartfast - June 24 2010 at 06:49 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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harmonium.ro
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Yeah, that's about correct. My gf who's a doctor said when we were only talking about emigrating that the US is a good place to be only when you're young and in full power and health. Edited by harmonium.ro - June 24 2010 at 08:16 |
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We all can hope to hit it big in the lottery. |
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And it wouldn't be an issue if Congress could realize that costs are the #1 aspect of our health care system that we need to improve. |
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THIS. Never think things can't get any worse! Anyone see that picture of the baby smoking a bong, (though im guessing its mouth was just on it). Been causing some stir on MSNBC today. And that's the liberal channel, if anything wouldn't they approve of babies smoking weed? Mom just said "it was a joke" "it was stupid" and "would never let my baby get high" Thank goodness for that! |
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Marty McFly
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If I may ask you for something, I'll appeal on your thinking, your brain. Because CNN in this is presenting only one point of view. Terrible crime was this. But it's just pinnacle of bigger problem. And both sides are responsible if you ask me. Sadly, this article is extremely biased. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/06/25/roma.prejudice/index.html?hpt=C2&fbid=lSQVG1ySM6M Just what do you think about this ? Seems like that this famous case gets more prominent by being featured on CNN. If somebody wants to explain some facts, just ask me. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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Monsters. To burn a little girl with a Molotov cocktail...they're just monsters.
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They need to catch those responsible, throw them in a jail cell then toss in a couple of Molotov cocktails. An eye for an eye. |
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How does that change anything? It's awful that they did that though. |
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Marty McFly
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1)They are monsters if they were doing this with knowing who will be inside. 2)They aren't monsters if they were oblivious to this fact, even this crime is quite horrible. Look, I understand that it looks terribly, but there were four guys. Who will get life sentence, one of them ? Two of them, or all of them ? And who will get let's say 8 years ? Everyone who does this is bad. As far as I know, it's first Molotov attack in recent history of Czech Republic, so people are scared. But when you want to kill someone like that, to see and hear them burn alive, it's far worse than when you just want to burn the house down, without knowing that someone is inside. It's up to judge to decide. Let the facts reveal themselves and don't get fooled by bias. If they're guilty, they will suffer consequences. According to law. And it's not good to have moral relativism in this case, because (I don't want to compare with US, because crime rate is far bigger there and also capital punishment takes place there) it's not working like that. You commit a crime, no matter how big crime it is, you will be judged and sentenced ACCORDING to law. If our society wants to be democratic one, we can't just burn them down in retaliation. Crime they commit isn't fair/nice/good, but as I said, eye to eye isn't going to work. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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clarke2001
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No, Marty, they're no monsters with 'if' or 'but', they're simply monsters, because this is an atrocious crime.
I might say 'they deserve the same', but that's speak in affection, of course they will get a fair trial. But if one person threw the bottle, what where others doing? They were fully aware of the act, which was nothing else than a murder attempt; a horrific one, rooted in hatred, and with goal of annihilation. Nobody of them jumped to help after hearing the screams? My estimation is each of them should get a 10-15 years in prison. Because they won't hesitate do it again. What else to expect from ultra-right-winged ones? I don't care about one's political opinion...until it steps on the human rights of other person. An 'eye for an eye' was never good thing. It reached grotesque levels in various cultures: for example in Albania, which is the only country in the world where you are obliged by law NOT to stop your car after you hit a pedestrian; you should drive away to the nearest police station. I'm surprised this happened in Czech Republic, which is, to my knowledge, quite a peaceful country, so I guess it's an isolated incident - although the ultra-right-winged movement seems to be on the rise in the entire Europe, including my country too. There was a gay pride parade a few days ago (my female friend was there), and there were a few nasty incidents with skins. I feel pity for the Gypsys...Europe is too easily forgetting how much it's cultural identity would be crippled without them...and yet, even today, they're living in conditions slightly above of an animal, and non-Gypsy people are treating them as such...absolute povery, no education, no chance. While racial relationships vastly improved from 1950's onwards in United States, from 90's onwards in South Africa, the Gypsys are still living on the margins of the European society...even if they have all the human rights, it's only on paper. Even their self-esteem is very low...there are 10,000 Romani people in my country by census, but the the estimate is closer to 50,000-300,000. I might be biased...I lived in the slums in my earliest childhood, and I even remember some of their language. |
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Marty McFly
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^ Fair comment. Incident as dangerous as this is isolate one, I agree. Even though we have some fights, some people (white / gypsy, both) crippled because of racism (again, from both sides, because I'm not sure how known it is to outside world that it works both ways). Fights, brawls, some demonstrations, nothing big as this. Even our breaking out of communism was without one single death, which is something I'm proud of and quite happy about. I was born that year you know, in February 1989. I should also tell that father of this little girl was convicted criminal who was avoiding prison sentence (robberies). These four guys who did it were unemployed / lowly payed manual workers, mostly poor and with only basic level of education. Same as victim's family. Just saying, just saying. Don't mock me for that. In one of discussions about this, someone raised a concern, how this can be racial hatred, when there are basically only three races. Europoid, Negroid and Mongoloid. Is it racial anymore ? Moris, by the way, how it is in your own country, how it is with Serbs & others in Balkan ? |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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Epignosis
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That's because people now don't get the purpose of lex talionis. As noted in previous sections, the natural tendency of people is for revenge and in the extreme. “You hurt me or offended me so I am going to take an ‘arm and a leg’ or sue you for all you have!” Although both the Hammurabi Code and Hebrew Law both had death penalties for many crimes, the “eye for eye” was to restrict compensation to the value of the loss; in the hammurabi code as being literal, and in the Hebrew Law applying monetarily. Thus, it might be better read 'only one eye for one eye'. |
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