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This soccer thing will never appeal to me, but damn are there some fine stories out there about it.

http://t.foxsports.msn.com/soccer/brazilian-team-punished-after-fan-killed-by-toilet-bowl-thrown-from-stands

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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The death penalty doesn't deter crime, the death penalty punishes people that have little to do with the crime (the family of the one to be killed, they also exist you know), the death penaly actually for some might be less of a punshiment than a long sentence in a usually atrocious place like a penitentiary, the death penalty is not proper of a civilized society.


The death penalty is a lousy deterrent. If it worked, no one would be executed! The proponents of the death penalty know this, and they are being extremely hypocritical when they defend it in this way. Far better to be more honest, and state that they favour it as a way of punishing the most heinous crimes and that the prisoner deserves such a date. You might not agree with it, but at least it would be honest.

The families of the victims, btw, would probably point out to you that they too, are victims of the crime perpetrated, i.e. The family of a loved one murdered or raped. They would argue that it is right the family of the executed prisoner suffer in the way they suffer.

I also despair at the length of time the wretches spend on death row over in the USA, awaiting their "day". That strikes me as being almost as cruel as the execution itself.


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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The death penalty doesn't deter crime, the death penalty punishes people that have little to do with the crime (the family of the one to be killed, they also exist you know), the death penaly actually for some might be less of a punshiment than a long sentence in a usually atrocious place like a penitentiary, the death penalty is not proper of a civilized society.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 12:16
The death penalty doesn't deter crime, the death penalty punishes people that have little to do with the crime (the family of the one to be killed, they also exist you know), the death penaly actually for some might be less of a punshiment than a long sentence in a usually atrocious place like a penitentiary, the death penalty is not proper of a civilized society.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Evolver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 12:08
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Oklahoma execute someone as humanely as they can and it only takes 43minutes.  I suspect I could hack someone to death with a pencil sharpener slightly quicker.

It amazes me every day how the US keeps on wanting to be more and more barbaric as time goes on. From allowing guns on bars to continuing to have a death penalty (and making all efforts to carry it on) to having discriminatory bills in actual state legislatures, it is just unbelievable. 

The wife and I were discussing this yesterday.
What rather amazes us is the rather hypocritical handwringing going on over with America regarding "humane" executions. What the bloody hell does it matter how you kill them? At the end of the day, they are being killed, a barbaric act in itself, surely?
I should add that neither of us favours the death penalty, but my wife did make a good point, I believe. That is, the chap who was (eventually) killed showed his victims no mercy whatsoever. Therefore, a killing exacted in revenge, in the name of justice, should surely be as wicked and cruel as the act perpetrated. The reason, btw, for our opposition is the fact that one innocent life being taken does not justify hundreds of bloodthirsty, murdering b*****ds being removed from our presence. Our opposition does not come from liberal handwringing, hypocritical or otherwise.
It is fair to say that America's record on this is hardly exemplary. In fact, it is a disgrace.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 11:59
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Oklahoma execute someone as humanely as they can and it only takes 43minutes.  I suspect I could hack someone to death with a pencil sharpener slightly quicker.
It amazes me every day how the US keeps on wanting to be more and more barbaric as time goes on. From allowing guns on bars to continuing to have a death penalty (and making all efforts to carry it on) to having discriminatory bills in actual state legislatures, it is just unbelievable. 

The wife and I were discussing this yesterday.

What rather amazes us is the rather hypocritical handwringing going on over with America regarding "humane" executions. What the bloody hell does it matter how you kill them? At the end of the day, they are being killed, a barbaric act in itself, surely?

I should add that neither of us favours the death penalty, but my wife did make a good point, I believe. That is, the chap who was (eventually) killed showed his victims no mercy whatsoever. Therefore, a killing exacted in revenge, in the name of justice, should surely be as wicked and cruel as the act perpetrated. The reason, btw, for our opposition is the fact that one innocent life being taken does not justify hundreds of bloodthirsty, murdering b*****ds being removed from our presence. Our opposition does not come from liberal handwringing, hypocritical or otherwise.

It is fair to say that America's record on this is hardly exemplary. In fact, it is a disgrace.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 11:36
I always knew there was something dark behind that witchy face.... 

Anyway, Georgia has overtaken FL in stupidity. 
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Another senseless progressive rock murder spree -
Shooter had ‘a lot more planned’   

FedEx victim’s mom says FBI described ammo, bombs. Seriously injured guard undergoes 3rd surgery.   

By Christian Boone [email protected]     
      The mother of one of the victims shot Tuesday at a Kennesaw FedEx distribution plant said her son is lucky to be alive.
   “When the FBI interviewed him, they told us about all the     ammo and homemade bombs (the shooter) had,” Theresia Sutton said Thursday. Her 19-year-old son, Brandyn Stonebraker, was among six FedEx employees shot by Geddy Lee Kramer. “(Kramer) had a lot more planned than he carried out,” Sutton said.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2014 at 19:44
I'm not saying that there aren't some criminals who probably should be executed, but there are too many people on death row who have been railroaded there.  And yeah the US does seem to be in a death spiral.  Of course this is all Obama's fault.

But seriously for every innocent person that is executed or falsely imprisoned there is a guilty party roaming free...


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Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Oklahoma execute someone as humanely as they can and it only takes 43minutes.  I suspect I could hack someone to death with a pencil sharpener slightly quicker.
It amazes me every day how the US keeps on wanting to be more and more barbaric as time goes on. From allowing guns on bars to continuing to have a death penalty (and making all efforts to carry it on) to having discriminatory bills in actual state legislatures, it is just unbelievable. 
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Jeremy Clarkeson is a Ni... ok so' he's not, but he said it, he said Ni... and the world has officially come to an end.
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Oklahoma execute someone as humanely as they can and it only takes 43minutes.  I suspect I could hack someone to death with a pencil sharpener slightly quicker.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2014 at 19:01
Well, FL and GA are neighbor states. Now they are neighborly stupid too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2014 at 18:38
Georgia - we make Florida look safe now.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/03/georgia-guns-concealed-carry-stand-your-ground

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Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

 
 
Oxford beat Cambridge in the Boat Race. 

Where were the rest?  Hmm?

 


A truly bizarre tradition which to this day I can't fathom what the appeal is to the (mostly non tertiary educated) masses who tune in dutifully to watch it (I mean when was watching the privileged sons of captains of industry rowing against the pampered offspring of landed gentry ever a spectator sport?) They should jazz it up a bit by inviting Strathclyde and Hull Universities to join in on Pedalos.

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A fantastic writer. I read only three of his novels, his style was actually not my favorite, but definitely one of the most important writers of the century. 
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Gabriel Garcia Marquez passed yesterday at the age of 87.

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It was inevitable: the scent of bitter almonds always reminded him of the fate of unrequited love.


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ON THE DAY THEY WERE GOING TO KILL him, Santiago Nasar got up at five-thirty in the morning to wait for the boat the bishop was coming on.


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25 years ago today.



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