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awww horseWithTeeth
 
folks we had an earthquake last night and I don't this quake thing is over. It is determinate on God's will, at this point, I believe. There are no "experts" in this field. So LOOK OUT there is a massive one a' a' a' comin
 
ps shape up. There is cancer/heart attacks/ and strokes awaitin, then chemo then diaylasis, this has happened to my dear step-dad, so he is going to die. I love you all
 
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Yeah, what fail.
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I am at a loss for words. We have created a society of monsters who think even children are child predators. I feel sick. I agree with a lot of the sentiment on this one: for their own good, a man should never help a child by itself. I blame bad parenting and politicians. If something bad happens to your child now because no one wanted to help him because you think everyone wants to rape your kid, then you only have yourself to blame. I feel most sorry for the children, though. They deserve good male role models, and society has deprived them of that possibility. Be careful kids, ALL MEN WANT TO RAPE AND KILL YOU.
It's the bullsh*t from the cops that is the worst.  Charging this poor kid with ANYTHING is wrong.  Why don't they charge the girl's mother with child endangerment?  This is what our country has come to, and sad to say I do understand why, but I don't want to go on a rant here.  What I will say:  it's no wonder that passers-by ignore those truly in need.  Any Good Samaritan is surely going to punished for his or her efforts.  Folks, it just ain't worth the trouble anymore. Unhappy
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I'm so glad I'm not a kid today. 

Butt out, administrators.  Best friends rock.  I can't even imagine my life without two or three certain people.  No amount of casual friends beats the intimacy and bond of a deep friendship.


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RIP Touchdown Jesus

I seem to recall this commandment regarding graven images.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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RIP Touchdown Jesus


LOL


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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I'm so glad I'm not a kid today. 

Butt out, administrators.  Best friends rock.  I can't even imagine my life without two or three certain people.  No amount of casual friends beats the intimacy and bond of a deep friendship.


I'm so sick of this sort of thing.

[...] the two special pals who share secrets and exploits, who gravitate to each other on the playground and who head out the door together every day after school — signals potential trouble for school officials intent on discouraging anything that hints of exclusivity, in part because of concerns about cliques and bullying.

(Epignosis - wtf?)

“I think it is kids’ preference to pair up and have that one best friend. As adults — teachers and counselors — we try to encourage them not to do that,” said Christine Laycob, director of counseling at Mary Institute and St. Louis Country Day School in St. Louis. “We try to talk to kids and work with them to get them to have big groups of friends and not be so possessive about friends.”

(Epignosis - wtf?)

“Parents sometimes say Johnny needs that one special friend,” she continued. “We say he doesn’t need a best friend.”

(Epignosis - It sounds to me, madam, that you need a special friend)

Indeed, much of the effort to encourage children to be friends with everyone is meant to head off bullying and other extreme consequences of social exclusion.

(Epignosis - Part of growing up and becoming a mature adult is learning whom you can trust and whom you can support.  If I, for example, shared my secrets with everyone because of some bullsh*t notion of social equality, then I would have no secrets.  Discrimination is a good thing- a skill to be developed.  I certainly do not want my children being "friends" with everybody.  Not everybody is swell.)

In recent years Timber Lake Camp, a co-ed sleep-away camp in Phoenicia, N.Y., has started employing “friendship coaches” to work with campers to help every child become friends with everyone else. If two children seem to be too focused on each other, the camp will make sure to put them on different sports teams, seat them at different ends of the dining table or, perhaps, have a counselor invite one of them to participate in an activity with another child whom they haven’t yet gotten to know.

(Epignosis - Jesus)

Still, school officials admit they watch close friendships carefully for adverse effects. “When two children discover a special bond between them, we honor that bond, provided that neither child overtly or covertly excludes or rejects others,” said Jan Mooney, a psychologist at the Town School, a nursery through eighth grade private school on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. “However, the bottom line is that if we find a best friend pairing to be destructive to either child, or to others in the classroom, we will not hesitate to separate children and to work with the children and their parents to ensure healthier relationships in the future.”

(Epignosis - I'll bet these psychological morons would have us all be polygamists. Idiots
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Thanks for the article Jim, but that was pretty painful to read.  Socialist parenting (that's what I call this) is not good.  So many have this apparent need now to shield children from the consequences of their actions.  This sort of thing allows children who are rude and selfish to still have "friends," (using that term loosely because I never considered everyone I hung out with a friend). 

Being a good friend is hard work and requires sacrifice- two other things nitwit adults want to protect children from.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 08:07
All sounds perfectly reasonable to me - teachers have been seperating "bestist friends" in the classroom since schools were invented to miminise disruption. Playground cliques have also been the root of bullying since the year dot. More power to them I say.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 08:23

Two points Dean.  Of course, best friendships can sometime create discipline issues in the school setting, and certainly if that’s the case it must be addressed.  No argument, in fact I’m for much harsher disciplinary measures for troublemakers than you, I’d wager.

 

The rubbish part is the more general inference that there is something unhealthy about having best friends, ie…deep, close friendships.  All of us had childhood friends we can point to that were something very special, I can name several friends I loved to death.  There was nothing wrong with those friendships, on the contrary they were some of the most joyous moments of my youth.  So you’re going to argue there is something wrong with close friendships?  That all friendships should be mere casual acquaintance en masse? 


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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Two points Dean.  Of course, best friendships can sometime create discipline issues in the school setting, and certainly if that’s the case it must be addressed.  No argument, in fact I’m for much harsher disciplinary measures for troublemakers than you, I’d wager.

 

The rubbish part is the more general inference that there is something unhealthy about having best friends, ie…deep, close friendships.  All of us had childhood friends we can point to that were something very special, I can name several friends I loved to death.  There was nothing wrong with those friendships, on the contrary they were some of the most joyous moments of my youth. 

Well Jim, times have changed since either of us were kids - the concept of play, friends and socialising is drastically different and far more parent-controlled than it ever was in our day(s) - this in itself is unhealthy and creates far greater emotional bonds and stress than anything we ever experienced when we were growing up. If you've ever picked up the pieces when one of these "modern" BFFs fails then you will understand it's a nasty mess that requires many visits to the Hagan Daz ice cream parlour to repair. I think it is right for schools to try and redress this imbalance. Schools and teachers will never stop kids from having best friends anymore than our parents could ever stop us from being best mates with tear-arse Johnny the snot-nosed kid from across the tracks just because they didn't approve of him - all they can do is encourage a wider sphere of friends and less intensity in close friendships that they do have.
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

So you’re going to argue there is something wrong with close friendships?  That all friendships should be mere casual acquaintance en masse? 
LOL reading between lines I never wrote eh Jim? LOL
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I didn’t expect you to argue the latter questions Dean, and couldn’t believe you would think that…so basically those are rhetoricals

 

Though when you say “more power to them”, I believe those folks are saying it should extend beyond the playground.  That’s what I believe is dead wrong because I know how special those friendships can be. 

 

And yes I’ve also seen young kids devastated by special friendship loss these days, perhaps the reason its so much more devastating than it was for us is that they are a bit more coddled these days, whereas in our day our Dads would hand put us to work with extra chores if he caught us moping around.  These days they’d take the kid to the shrink and put him/her on meds.  LOL



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Robert, I almost missed your post as I saw Deans first and stopped.  I love your disections!  LOLClap
 
Lest any kids think I'm picking on them here, I am not.  My problem lies mostly with today's parents/teachers (ie, people my age), not today's kids.  We're the ones who need the head check.  But this get into the parenting thread and that discussion should go there.
 
This post was interesting for the question "are best friends/deep friendships" important or not?  Are large numbers of casual friendships better.  I don't think so, but just my opinion.   


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I,m reading Heart Of Dearkness for the Kazzilionth time.
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Late breaking news.  Ozzy's genome to be mapped to find out just why the hell he's still amongst the living:
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 19:36
GOBP.  A Republican Rep (short for reprehesible)  from Texas actually apologized to BP CEO at a congressional hearing.

Top Corporate Donor to Barton Is Partner of BP on Deepwater Horizon


Edited by Slartibartfast - June 17 2010 at 19:54
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

GOBP.  A Republican Rep (short for reprehesible)  from Texas actually apologized to BP CEO at a congressional hearing.


Yes, one Republican speaks for all Republicans (when he said he wasn't).  Ermm

I think this is worth seeing.

I am also curious about what "reprehesible" is.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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