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    Posted: May 24 2009 at 01:45
This is a plea for help to identify a "mystery song" that has eluded the attempts of both myself and my father for 35 years now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7PK0242Sw  (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m12EIqnmNJQ  (Part 2)

The song was originally recorded by my father on cassette tape from a Philadelphia radio broadcast between September 1973 and April 1975.  He believes it was in the winter and that the station was WYSP. 

After hearing the song for the first time, my father waited patiently by the stereo system for the station to replay it so he could make his recording.  Knowing that the song contained a lengthy drum solo and that his available tape would end before the song did he paused the tape at one point to exclude the solo and retain the piece's ending.  As it stands, the recording clocks in at 12:29 without the solo and it appears his tape ended before the song despite his best efforts! 

Part of me has not wanted to make this post, since so much effort has already been made on our part throughout the years to identify this song.  I wanted to make the discovery on my own.  The journey to identify this song has resulted in our discovery of a lot of other great music from the same time period, but at this point we're desperate.  It's time for us to know who did this so that we can possibly enjoy hearing the complete song.  We also wish to discover other works by this band.

Thanks for considering our request for your help.  Please understand that the posting of this (low quality) recording to YouTube has been done only for the purposes of determining the artist and song.  The video will be removed once this has been accomplished.  We're not looking to violate any copyrights; rather, we're trying to determine who the copyright holder is so that we may purchase their art!

If necessary, I can provide a list of the artists and albums we have already eliminated... but since this is the nexus of progressive rock knowledge I am assuming for now that it won't be necessary!

In case it may help, here's our best take on what the lyrics are (most debatable transcriptions in brackets):

[Edited to remove the previously posted lyrics, as the song has been identified and the lyrics are probably copyrighted.]


Edited by 70sMysterySong - May 26 2009 at 13:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 02:23
Hey

As I said on youtube, I have no idea to be honest.

Good luck.

Do you have an iPhone?
If so, there is a free online application (Sorry, can't remember the name) but when played music, it can give you the name, artist, album, year of release and an option to buy it instantly.

Good luck mate
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 02:33
dunno what it is, but i can definetly tell you that it's pretty cool! :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 04:00
Wow! That's one cool song!
I don't know what it is though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 04:17
My lyric search was to no avail... took every line and searched, nothing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 04:22
This may wind up haunting you for the rest of your life.  What if it was some local band that never actually made it to LP?  But hey, if someone here can't help you with it I'm guessing you are out of luck, then may you find some other prog on here to ease your soul.Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 04:49
I don't know it, but I think it is far too well-recorded and well-arranged for a demo of a local band.  Of course, it could be a very talented, rich and unlucky school band,   but with the full instrumentation of harpsichord, Hammond organ and Mellotron,   I believe that this could be a relict of some album sessions of a band that has issued some other LPs, too.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 05:07
marvelous piece-- there was so much prog at that time, everyone was getting into it.. but if anyone might recognize it, it would be someone here, good luck !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 05:12
The vocalist sounds vaguely familiar to me, but I can't place him.  Of course, it could be/and most likely is, that he just sounds like another vocalist I've heard.  Cool song.  I wish you luck, as I wouldn't mind finding out who this band is myself.  I agree with the post above.  It's too well-recorded to be a local band demo.  I think more likely is that it was a band who released one album in the late 60's/maybe 1970 and disappeared into obscurity.  On the other hand, it could be from the long-lost Sex Pistols' first album.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 05:43
The music recognition Ipod app is called "Shazam" but it will only recognise music that is in its database so obscure Prog is unlikely to be there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 07:08
It's the most outside of outside bets, but you could contact the radio station themselves - they should at least be able to tell you who the DJ was if you can remember the broadcast date. Then it's just the matter of tracking him down (if he's still with us) and seeing if he can tell you. Not very helpful but it's the best i can do.
 
I've no time now so I've just played intro to first couple of verses, but it sounds a little like the last section of Echoes - but it's only a first listen so I could be wrong. Sounds really cool, actually. I'll play the rest later - unless someone gets it and the clip's removed of course!
It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 07:13
Just another quick idea - probably 'cos I'm a journo. Maybe a radio or TV station might broadcast a short segment of it - you know, mystery band, nostalgia etc, that sort of story. Maybe they might not of course, but if you're that desperate to find out it could be worth a shot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 11:11
Zoldar & Clark?

They have woodwinds in their catalog.

Jasper Wrath?

I am thinking that it is an American band out of the Nor-eastern part of the US.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 11:57
Wow, that took me back, classic obscure 70s prog rock, I kept thinking I was going to recognize something, but I guess that is one I never heard before.

I was trying to guess the band's orgin, the vocals sound American. The mid-west was full of ambitious bar bands that would record proggy albums on local labels. I look for records like that at garage sales and thrift stores.

i was also trying to guess the band's lineup, drums, bass, kybdist that plays flute?, one or two guitarists?, Almost everybody sings backups and harmonizes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 12:18
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Wow, that took me back, classic obscure 70s prog rock, I kept thinking I was going to recognize something, but I guess that is one I never heard before.

I was trying to guess the band's orgin, the vocals sound American. The mid-west was full of ambitious bar bands that would record proggy albums on local labels.
I look for records like that at garage sales and thrift stores.

i was also trying to guess the band's lineup, drums, bass, kybdist that plays flute?, one or two guitarists?, Almost everybody sings backups and harmonizes.



Yup, I instantly thought of "Autumn People" , from Arizona I believe, and a band that Ivan is looking into adding here.  But I don't think they are correct answer. 

I have floated the question to two prog experts I know and will report any news. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 12:21
^ I think the vocals are wrong for Zoldar and Clark - though I do believe they are American - my first guess was Harlequin Mass, but I don't think it's them either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 12:23
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Wow, that took me back, classic obscure 70s prog rock, I kept thinking I was going to recognize something, but I guess that is one I never heard before.

I was trying to guess the band's orgin, the vocals sound American. The mid-west was full of ambitious bar bands that would record proggy albums on local labels. I look for records like that at garage sales and thrift stores.

i was also trying to guess the band's lineup, drums, bass, kybdist that plays flute?, one or two guitarists?, Almost everybody sings backups and harmonizes.
I think two different vocalist sang lead, but may be guessing too wildly
What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 12:42
I was just thinking, why would you try to take all the fun out by ending 35 years of mystery? Tongue

The mooses have informed me that they aren't quite happy with this, but the llamas on the other hand....


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 24 2009 at 12:44
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 13:34
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I was just thinking, why would you try to take all the fun out by ending 35 years of mystery? Tongue

The mooses have informed me that they aren't quite happy with this, but the llamas on the other hand....


Mooses you say.....where's the squirrel?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2009 at 13:38
It's "Circumstances" by Capability Brown, one of the greatest prog songs ever.

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