Ever see the word "progressive" used incorrectly?

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I agree with you Logan.

But, I would like to say that I disagree with saying that progressive is a meaningless term.
First off, no word is meaningless.
"Progressive" has just become a confusing word because of all the uses of it that go beyond it's dictionary definition. I think where it looses a lot of its meaning is in art.
Progress is real. There can be progress in science, politics, or there can be social progress. There is also progress in art, but it can be very subjective.
It basically means good change. The problem is, people can different opinions about quality.
So the real issue is not that the word has no meaning, it's just that people see quality differently.
But that does not mean that it has no meaning. Progressive Rock is progressive. That's because it gave good changes to rock music. The kind of quality found in Progressive Rock is indisputable. Other music can be progressive, because it changes music in a good way. This does not necessarily mean it changes it in the same way Progressive Rock does. It might not add the same kind of quality, but in some way, the music is changed for the better.
So I think the word has a lot of meaning and that it is a very good word. The world would be nowhere without progress and without progressive ideas.

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Little Sir John Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Groupie Joined: May 19 2009 Location: spacetime Status: Offline Points: 41	Posted: June 10 2009 at 16:35
	I agree with you Logan. But, I would like to say that I disagree with saying that progressive is a meaningless term. First off, no word is meaningless. "Progressive" has just become a confusing word because of all the uses of it that go beyond it's dictionary definition. I think where it looses a lot of its meaning is in art. Progress is real. There can be progress in science, politics, or there can be social progress. There is also progress in art, but it can be very subjective. It basically means good change. The problem is, people can different opinions about quality. So the real issue is not that the word has no meaning, it's just that people see quality differently. But that does not mean that it has no meaning. Progressive Rock is progressive. That's because it gave good changes to rock music. The kind of quality found in Progressive Rock is indisputable. Other music can be progressive, because it changes music in a good way. This does not necessarily mean it changes it in the same way Progressive Rock does. It might not add the same kind of quality, but in some way, the music is changed for the better. So I think the word has a lot of meaning and that it is a very good word. The world would be nowhere without progress and without progressive ideas.
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Valdez Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 262	Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:09
	What bands (artists) are actually making progress these days? Very few. I would check out JAMES or AVESTINS playlists before I put on another YES album.
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meptune Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 01 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 231	Posted: June 11 2009 at 00:26
	I had a student tell me that he likes prog, especially Dragon Force! Guess I got some teachin' to do.
	"Arf, she said"

himtroy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1601	Posted: June 11 2009 at 18:51
	Whats wrong with the Velvet Underground example? Have you never listened to the Velvet Underground? However, that is a false statement none the less, since he had nothing to do with really creating the Velvets.

brainerd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Groupie Joined: August 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 70	Posted: June 16 2009 at 17:43
	It annoys me that Coheed And Cambria consider themselves a progressive rock band, when they clearly aren't 'progressive' in any sense of the word apart from occasionally sounding slightly like Rush. That is all.