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soggybomb
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Topic: Opeth songs without growling Posted: December 09 2009 at 21:31 |
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I was in your position when I first listened to Opeth. I listened and loved Damnation, but couldn't get around the growls. Then I listened to "The Drapery Falls" off of Blackwater Park, which only has growls in one section, and I loved it. In that song, the growls made sense within the context of the song. So I slowly came around to them, and now I own a great many Opeth records. This whole Opeth w/out growls chase reminds me of a Python sketch where the customer can't get any breakfast without Spam.
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Iaksones
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 14:09 | ||||||
I feel you, OP; I too prefer singing to growling, thought I will listen to Watershed (only Opeth album I've got) completely through with no unpleasant side effects from the growling ;)
Add in "Bridge of Sighs" and the cover of some Swedish pop chick's song "Den ständiga resan" from the Watershed special edition to that. Also, the covers of Alice in Chain's "Would?" (Awesome!) and of Deep Purple's "Soldier of Fortune."
Edited by Iaksones - December 09 2009 at 14:09 |
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Kashmir75
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Posted: December 07 2009 at 01:25 | ||||||
Opeth is the only band with growling vocals that I DO really like. The contrast between the demonic cookie monster vocals and the clean singing is so great, and it is what makes them interesting.
Mikael's clean voice is one of the best in rock, in my opinion. All of Damnation and most of Watershed I recommend to a non-death metal voice fan. The new album was a surprise, as apart from two or three tracks, there is not much growling. The ballads on Watershed are gorgeous, in my opinion. But when Watershed is heavy (Heir Apparent is probably the heaviest thing they've ever done), it is REALLY heavy. I don't think Damnation is boring at all. I'm a big metal fan as well as a proghead, but the songwriting and musicianship on Damnation is second to none. It may even be one of my favourites from them.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 21:14 | ||||||
Why does everyone seem to call him that way? Anyway, it's pretty funny though!
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J-Man
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 20:09 | ||||||
I go for quality, too. The entire album isn't boring, but parts are, especially when in comparison to Still Life. btw, I am NOT a huge metalhead. I typically don't even like growling, but Opeth's dynamic shifts between acoustic and death metal sections is incredible. Windowpane is an exceptionally good song, and the whole album is very good (I gave it 4 stars actually). But it lacks the great combination of acoustic, death metal, and progressive rock and metal that makes Opeth great in the first place. |
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-Radioswim-
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 19:27 | ||||||
quiet you... people are discussing, rather then forcing their opinions with harsh medicine.
It's not that Damnnation is boring, I find it musically exciting. I don't think Opeth without growls would neccesarily be worse, or bad. But I think what makes Opeth so great is how completely dynamic their sound is, within a single composition even. It's quite amazing actually if you think about it. Take the song from Ghost Reveries "Reverie/Harlequin Forest" for instance. Very dynamic song. Edited by -Radioswim- - July 16 2009 at 19:32 |
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 06:23 | ||||||
window payne boring? I think too many kids have been brainwashed by metal. It's all about fashion these days. I don't follow others, I just go for quality Edited by PROGMONSTER2008 - July 16 2009 at 06:25 |
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J-Man
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 05:28 | ||||||
^ Yes he does have an excellent singing voice, but the music is occasionally boring.
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 01:12 | ||||||
boring?
Window payne is 10 times better than anything on deliverance
When he actually sings, he has a great voice
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topofsm
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 00:27 | ||||||
Corrected
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 00:01 | ||||||
Their only good album
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topofsm
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 23:48 | ||||||
Haha, the word dragonvoice IMO makes death growls sound so cheesy. In any event Opeth is awesome, and the growls are a huge part of the picture. Without that, I'd venture they'd sound pretty generic. |
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J-Man
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 15:48 | ||||||
Same here. Almost ALL of my favorite albums are are concept albums. Scenes From A Memory, Still Life, The Perfect Element, Snow, The Lamb, etc., etc. |
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The Doctor
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:21 | ||||||
^ I'll have to check that one out then.
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Negoba
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:16 | ||||||
Then you need to buy the album Damnation which is all clean vocals and guitars, with mellotrons and harmonies, it's like a dark Genesis / Camel vibe. Sort of.
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The Doctor
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Michelle1PA
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 12:07 | ||||||
Still Life is my favorite complete Opeth album. I like a song here or there on their others. For some reason, their other songs I tolerate the harsh vocals because I like the rest of the song. But Still Life seems to flow really well for me. Of course I'm something of a concept album junkie, so the story really drew me. |
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mgallard
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 10:54 | ||||||
OK, excellent, thanks for the input, certainly dragonvoice sounds "better" than cookie monster, though I must admit it's just as childish in my opinion. I gather I'll be able to maybe "grok" Opeth if I can enjoy their non-growling music and then venture step by step into the rest. The DVD idea is a good one, I'll do it. Thanks again for your time and ideas.
Greetings mgallard Edited by mgallard - July 15 2009 at 10:54 |
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Negoba
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 08:38 | ||||||
I came to this site with basically your original question as my prime motivator.
To say dragonvoice is an acquired taste is the understatement of the decade, but if there's anywhere to learn it, it's from Opeth. Just buy Watershed and give it time. From there you'll be able to handle it.
BTW, Akerfeldt has the best dragonvoice ever. That youtube link is an awesome example, there's a back and forth between Ihsahn and Akerfeldt and it sounds like a bat flying around the devil.
And live, he's mindboggling. Give it some time.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 08:08 | ||||||
Get the Lamentations DVD ... getting used to the vocals is much easier when you can also watch the guys.
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