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    Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:11
Oh, that cover is amazing.
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By the way, I was looking at what's available on half.com:

Shadowdance
Shadowfax
CD, 1997

$1.48 (Save 87%)
Folksongs For a Nuclear Village
Shadowfax
CD, 1988

$3.25 (Save 72%)
Too Far to Whisper
Shadowfax
CD, 1986

$2.87
The Odd Get Even
Shadowfax
CD, 1990

$0.75
The Dreams of Children [Remaster]
Shadowfax
CD, 1998

$5.70
Magic Theater
Shadowfax
CD, 1994

$3.75 (Save 76%)
Shadowfax
Shadowfax
CD, 1997

$4.99 (Save 58%)
Live
Shadowfax
CD, 1998

$5.75 (Save 68%)
What Goes Around: Best of Shadowfax
Shadowfax
CD, 1991

$0.75 (Save 90%)
Esperanto
Shadowfax
CD, 1992

$0.75 (Save 94%)
Windham Hill Presents Pure : Shadowfax *
Shadowfax
CD, 2006

$4.99 (Save 37%)
Watercourse Way
Shadowfax
CD

$18.29

Notice which album commands the highest price.  It's a damn shame these guy's discography are now out of print.


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Originally posted by Blowin Free

Atleast not on Watercourse Way. I heard some Indo influences here and there but I didn't really think of it as an Indo album.
 
Looks like we are influenced by which album we heard first wrt Shadowfax. This was mine:
Shadowdance
 
and with the opening number New Electric India , a scene/viewpoint was set in my mind.
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Those are with sale, list prices go from 10 to 16 dollars (excluding Watercourse)
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Posts: 26021 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 04:44
Originally posted by Blowin Free

Those are with sale, list prices go from 10 to 16 dollars (excluding Watercourse)

The outrageously high high prices asked for some of these are a bit amusing.


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True, but they're obscure rare prog gems.
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The Dreams of Children [Remaster]
(CD, 1998)

Primary Artist: Shadowfax
BEST PRICE
$5.70
Format: CD
Aug 1998
Record Label: Windham Hill Records
Recording Type: Studio
UPC: 019341136323









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Price Seller Feedback Comments Shipping From
$24.75 Buy! wcb55
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$125.05 Buy! woodysbook
(13364Feedback is 10,000 to 24,999) 98% 		Excellent customer service. May ship from alternate location depending on...

I do believe this is incorrectly listed as a remaster.


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Correctly, I remember their discography, and if I'm not wrong, Dreams of Children is 1984.
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Originally posted by Blowin Free

Correctly, I remember their discography, and if I'm not wrong, Dreams of Children is 1984.

I dunno, maybe they actually did squeeze out one remaster before Greenburg was lost to us.

Anyway, the original Watercourse Way cover, only bigger:


Watercourse Way - album cover

Reminds me of some Ozric Tentacle album cover art, which of course came later.

A random thought that just occurred to me, how much did the term Art Rock come in to common usage back the due to the really cool album cover art?



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I don't see it, and i'm pretty sure Greenberg died in 1990.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast

A random thought that just occurred to me, how much did the term Art Rock come in to common usage back the due to the really cool album cover art?

Nah - fairly sure it was Pete Townshend who first use the term and he was refering to bands that were formed by students at Art schools and colleges (he himself went to Ealing Art College).


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Poor kid...
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Posts: 2817 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 06:34
I agree about Watercourse Way.  It definitely belongs here.  The rest, I'm not so sure.
Dean wrote "if the first album is Progressive Rock then they have a chance of being added."
If having one prog album allows you in, that opens the flood gates for all of those jazz artists who made at least one good fusion album.
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I highly doubt that. There are a lot of fusion bands that:

A) Did not have a first album which was proggy/fusiony enough
B) Would be called flooders and will be either removed from the site or their requests will be removed
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Posts: 29175 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 07:13
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I agree about Watercourse Way.  It definitely belongs here.  The rest, I'm not so sure.
Dean wrote "if the first album is Progressive Rock then they have a chance of being added."
If having one prog album allows you in, that opens the flood gates for all of those jazz artists who made at least one good fusion album.
We are aware of that and that is why I said "...a chance of being added" and not "...will be added". Wink
 
If the non-Prog contribution far outweights the one Prog album then it is very likely that they would be added to Prog Related rather than a full Prog category.
 
When it comes to Jazz fusion, the "fusion" still has to be "Prog"
 
 
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I highly doubt that. There are a lot of fusion bands that:

A) Did not have a first album which was proggy/fusiony enough
B) Would be called flooders and will be either removed from the site or their requests will be removed
A) is irrelevant then.
 
B) No - that's why we have Genre teams and an evaluation process - no one can flood our system since only a select few are allowed to add bands. Also the rule is once a band is added their full discography must be listed - with no exceptions - so if we accept a band because of one Prog album then we expect all the non-prog albums to be listed.


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They  are still prog *Hmph*.
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Originally posted by Blowin Free

They  are still prog *Hmph*.
Only if you continue to equate New Age with Prog Tongue


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Originally posted by Blowin Free

Atleast not on Watercourse Way. I heard some Indo influences here and there but I didn't really think of it as an Indo album.
 
Looks like we are influenced by which album we heard first wrt Shadowfax. This was mine:
Shadowdance
 
and with the opening number New Electric India , a scene/viewpoint was set in my mind.
Prog Ears has them as JR/F / World Music
 
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GEPR: "Their first album Watercourse Way was a stunning mixture of blistering guitar driven jazz-rock fusion, cerebral piano acoustics and powerful dynamics. Shadowfax, at the time, appeared to be one of the most promising new bands around. Unfortunately it took them seven years to do their next album, and in the meantime they'd squandered their brilliance, as the new stuff (and all albums since) was merely warmed-up new-age world music that couldn't cut through soft butter. "


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I wouldn't call it that...
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It is just someone's opinion. *shrug*


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