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    Posted: October 12 2023 at 16:49
I just noticed that past "members" CAPH and NANCZO had a propensity for rating everything in site with one stars--hundreds of ratings each. Even their ratings "averages" for every category are between 1.0 and 2.0--which means, to me, that they chose the wrong site--or the wrong music--to experiment with.

Anyway, the reason I bring these two to your attention is due to the misleading wording that PA places above an individual's chart ("Reviews distribution by sub-genre"): why is the second of the three categories in the chart labeled with "Nb of reviews" when in fact there are no requirements of having posted a review, only a rating?

I would love to see a chart that charts the actual number of reviews written/posted--the things that take time, sweat, and energy--as opposed to the minimal efforts made by the machine gun fire ratings mashers. 

Just saying. And perhaps ratings and reviews should be even more segregated in the weighting system.
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Album release date is September 15. Currently has three 5-star ratings...


You can buy the triple album box set now. They've sold over 200-300 sets.  Miami Scot got a download of the entire triple album, did a video review, and gave it 5 stars.   They plan on releasing separate vinyl/CDs -back to back- over a few months in the Autumn.  You can pre-order the first vinyl/CD from Laser.

Although it's an unusual way to do it...I think it's legit. Wink

Indeed, it is an unusual method of releasing whatever you want to call this. I hesitate to call it an album as it is clearly something bigger. I hesitate to order vinyl (something I don't have the equipment set up to handle at this time), especially at a €150 price tag, but yeah, will probably get the first CD at LaserCD. Hopefully they will load some more stuff from the next two books on Bandcamp, so I can at least listen before buying. Thanks!
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ This album is already available here as "Book I". It could be an explanation.


... but I agree this is confusing anyway.

Fair enough. I guess we could add the second and third "books" once more information is available and likewise they can rate the individual parts.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Album release date is September 15. Currently has three 5-star ratings...


You can buy the triple album box set now. They've sold over 200-300 sets.  Miami Scot got a download of the entire triple album, did a video review, and gave it 5 stars.   They plan on releasing separate vinyl/CDs -back to back- over a few months in the Autumn.  You can pre-order the first vinyl/CD from Laser.

Although it's an unusual way to do it...I think it's legit. Wink


Edited by omphaloskepsis - July 04 2023 at 10:54
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^ This album is already available here as "Book I". It could be an explanation.


... but I agree this is confusing anyway.


Edited by projeKct - July 04 2023 at 08:59
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Album release date is September 15. Currently has three 5-star ratings...
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Strange how the only two 1 star bombs are from users who come from the same country as the band
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48100
My theory is that those 1 star voters might've rated the album so low due to some Peru-related political differences? Hmm, I dunno. Maybe I'm overthinking something and I'm just screwing around. ;)
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^ Removed, thank you. I so wish that ratings for albums could be disabled until the release dates. And wish that albums weren't added as early as they are often.
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4 more ratings for Haken's Fauna due for release 3 March 2023
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^ Looked it up, to be released on 3 March 2023. Will deal with and delete those later. Will have to investigate first for potential abuse beyond that (like manipulating album rankings....). Thanks for reporting it.

Anyway, those ratings deleted.

Edited by Logan - January 20 2023 at 15:02
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Three ratings for Haken's newest that won't be released for two months.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Holy Cow that last one!
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Hi, I would start by asking if this person has actually heard anything. The number of 5's is probably out of line, and I think I would remove them all ... it's stuffing like this that hurts the integrity of the website, specially when you can't ask the person about it, as that person is ... invisible.

I'm not an admin, but if a vote was up, I would say ... delete these even though it might bring down an album or 2 a bit here and there, but I doubt it will hurt anything.
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If Greco is doing this, I'm removing the album from my top 20 collaborators submission.
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Most unfortunate. I wanted to write a review of his latest effort (which I also enjoyed very much) but I no longer feel compelled to do so, to say the least.


Unfortunate indeed. Difficult to like an Astro Turffed album. 
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Most unfortunate. I wanted to write a review of his latest effort (which I also enjoyed very much) but I no longer feel compelled to do so, to say the least.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Payback with the one star? ;)

I had to dismember and remove the ratings of several more fake accounts giving fives to GRECO BASTIÁN that registered after I deleted the earlier ratings.

SEE this post from yesterday! (CLICK)

It rather reeks of desperation.

I'm convinced there's more abuse still. Will have to keep an eye on it.

I feel kind of sad for him! Especially since it really is a very good album--probably one of the 20 best albums I've heard from 2022!
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Payback with the one star? ;)

I had to dismember and remove the ratings of several more fake accounts giving fives to GRECO BASTIÁN that registered after I deleted the earlier ratings.

SEE this post from yesterday! (CLICK)

It rather reeks of desperation.

I'm convinced there's more abuse still. Will have to keep an eye on it.
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Holy Cow that last one!
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^ There are also these lonely 5-star ratings, though we can't prove anything :


The opposite can also be found !
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^Nice job, guys. I'll correct my little hand slap.
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