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    Posted: January 22 2010 at 10:06
This brasilian group has 3 full length albums, a couple of promo and 1 DVD. They are not easy to classify into a genre, as they are mainly a fusion of Metal and Celtic. However, I think they can fit well in the Progressive Metal section as I see many contact points with some Ayreon works.   Their second album, "The Delirium Has Just Begun" is IMO their best thing, but all the 3 are very nice. Their mixture of acoustic guitars, flute, violin with heavy bass, distorted guitars and sometimes growl are unique. A reference may be the Ayreon's "Loser", but if you pay them enough attention, you can find gems like "Brazuzan", "Bella Natura" and "Abracadabra". I think they are more than "prog related". recently Bruno Raia, the frontman has published a solo album (as Braia) that he has defined as "Progressive", but I didn't listen to it yet.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2010 at 09:29

I believe that this is a link to the suggested band's website. http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tuathadedanann.com.br%2F&lp=pt_en&.intl=us&fr=chr-yie8  It was in Portuguese, but if this worked right babelfish translated it to English.

And here is a link to their MySpace page.  http://www.myspace.com/tuathadedanann

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2010 at 09:36
Added to the Progressive Metal chart for evaluation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2010 at 13:26

This is what we call celtic metal. This is not prog.

If you like this band check out french bands Aes Dana and Heol Telwenn.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2010 at 04:01

I think at least some songs are prog e.g. brazuzan, but it doesn't matter so much. Thank you for the French bands. I'm about to try Aes Dana first (alphabetical order).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2010 at 07:19

Just a quick feedback after gibing a try to Aes Dana, Heol Telwen and Amon Amarth. They are al Celic and Metal, but none of them is in my pot. I still think that Tuatha de Danann are different. They have progressive parts that the three mentioned groups don't have at all. The biiggest difference is that those Celtic Metal or Pagan bands are all very dark while Tuatha De Danann music is solar, maybe because they are brasilian.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2010 at 08:39
I have spotted on Progfreak that this band is still being discussed.
Can anybody explain what this graph means? It seems that 2 months ago they were cleared but 17 days ago they went back into discussion?

DateUserChartAction
17dCCVPMetal (CCVP)
17dCCVPMetal (CCVP)
19dCCVPMetal-> Discuss
2MMartyMcFly89Metal-> Cleared
2MMartyMcFly89Metal (MartyMcFly89)
3MAnyColourYouLikeMetal (AnyColourYouLike)
4MTheProgtologistMetal (TheProgtologist)
12MJ-ManMetal (J-Man)
12MUMURMetal (UMUR)
2yThe TMetal (The T)
2yTheProgtologistMetal-> New
  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 06:34
I think that Octopus_4 is right.  They should be considered for inclusion.  In particular the album "The Delerium  Has Just Begun" has many elements that can be described as progressive - extended compositions with musical complexity, frequent time changes, and a good deal of innovation which one does not usually find in straightforward celtic metal.  Granted some albums are more progressive than others, but IMHO "The Delerium Has Just Begun" and "Tuatha De Danann" have very strong progressive elements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 09:16
I've seen on Progfreak that TdD have been definitevly rejected, so unless there's room for them in the prog-folk section (and I don't think) I think we can close the thread.

I "feel" them as a prog band but I'm happy enough to have raised the discussion (lost 5 to 3). There's already enough stuff to review on PA. Thanks anyway. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 09:27
Could someone call the Prog Folk Team? I think they deserve a place on PA.

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"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 10:05

This is a metal band that has been evaluated and rejected by the Prog Metal Team.

If we would have thought they weren't Metal but maybe Prog Folk we would have passed them on to the Prog Folk Team already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 16:01
meh, too bad they were rejected. They are a very interesting band nevertheless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2011 at 21:46
Hey guys, just pass this band to the Folk Team... let's see what they think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 07:18
Well the Prog Folk Team said they're willing to give this band a chance if the PMT doesn't want them, so I'll notify the PF team. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 09:02
VICTORY!
...For now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 09:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 11:09
^Thumbs Up Beer!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 10:45
It's more a fun when we have a response within 6 months Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 10:50
^LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2011 at 21:58
In the case of a band such as this, who show so much variety in their material & are hard to accurately categorize, I think that the important thing is not to worry so much about WHO has them, but more about making sure that SOMEONE has them! Their style, varied as it was even in the beginning, has changed to a certain extent during the course of their development over the four released titles between 1999 and 2004. Their first (demo) album is a mixture of some old songs from two earlier EPs and new material, switching between delicate Celtic folk passages and much heavier material with occasional death metal growls - in places even within the same song! Their second is similar but with all new material, & is a far more polished production. The third introduces even more variety and complexity into the song-writing and musicianship, a development which is continued yet further with their fourth and final release (so far). The band's 2009 DVD is esentially a set of "acoustic" versions of a selection their songs from their four studio albums. They have opened for bands such as Nightwish and Blind Guardian, and played the Wacken Open Air festival in 2005. I guess the problem is that they have their feet firmly anchored in two widely contrasting camps, and it seems that neither is going to be keen to accept them (& indeed prog metal team have already said "no").
I'm going to post a few YouTube vids now which show the band live in both electric and acoustic mode, as well as a couple of studio album tracks. Songs from all four albums are featured here.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
This is a highly skilled and much respected bunch of musicians, whose music, whatever else it may be, is certainly progressive for the most part. I had never listened to them until I saw this thread on here, a sad omission from my musical curriculum vitae, I feel - so thanks to octopus-4 for introducing them to us. I would like to see them included on here somewhere, and I hope all possible efforts are made to do so.


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