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Toaster Mantis
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Topic: Prog metal bands who have done prog albums Posted: November 21 2014 at 04:51 |
Most progressive metal groups seem to get more progressive and less metallic as they get older: Baroness, Fates Warning, Kylesa, Mastodon, Opeth, Queensr˙che, Voivod and so on. I'm guessing it has something to do with how progressive rock tends to aspire to being serious "art music" much more than metal and generally coming across as more mature in its cultural sensibility or emotional expression. Don't most people's taste in film/literature/music/etc move up the high culture/low culture hierarchy's ladder as they get older?
I'm guessing the same thing explains the chaotic technical side of metalcore, as in bands like Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan since "regular" metalcore strictly aims at being stupid fun music which resonates a lot less emotionally with most people once they pass their mid-20s.
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Posted: November 21 2014 at 03:55 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
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^Because both of them were released before my last post on here. |
...what. |
I didn't think I would have to explain this but here it goes: I started this thread about four years ago. After a few weeks it died off. The other day I brought it back. So the last post on here before I brought it back recently was still from 2010. This was one year before Opeth's heritage. Understand now? |
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 07:47 |
Anubis Gate (Denmark). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLZZ8tUfVtM
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 22:20 |
Michael678 wrote:
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^Because both of them were released before my last post on here. |
...what. | I didn't think I would have to explain this but here it goes: I started this thread about four years ago. After a few weeks it died off. The other day I brought it back. So the last post on here before I brought it back recently was still from 2010. This was one year before Opeth's heritage. Understand now?
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 15:47 |
aapatsos wrote:
^ not metal? Maybe a tad softer
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the site lists it as metal
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 13:42 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
^Because both of them were released before my last post on here. |
...what.
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 13:41 |
^ not metal? Maybe a tad softer
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 11:14 |
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 21:14 |
I would say the second disc on 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence from Dream Theater would be a perfect example of this, since that one hasn't got almost any metal at all.
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 19:22 |
A few of Threshold's songs sound nearly like a symph band masquerading as heavy prog, as with "Eat The Unicorn."
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 18:28 |
sleeper wrote:
The problem I have with this thread is the rather odious suggestion that Prog Metal bands aren't playing prog.
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 18:16 |
The problem I have with this thread is the rather odious suggestion that Prog Metal bands aren't playing prog.
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 17:54 |
^Because both of them were released before my last post on here.
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 17:43 |
why didn't anyone say Opeth's two latest albums. i heard that those two were considered prog albums made by them.
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Posted: October 03 2014 at 16:48 |
I don't typically resurrect old threads but thought I would make an exception for this one given the recent more prog oriented albums by Opeth. There must be other metal or metallish bands who have gone in a more prog(and less metal)direction since the last post on here. ;)
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Posted: June 28 2010 at 07:19 |
Geizao wrote:
- Anglagard - Spiral Architect - Canvas Solaris - Blotted Science
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Anglagard arent metal and the other 3 havnt done non metal albums.
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Posted: June 28 2010 at 05:58 |
Geizao wrote:
- Anglagard
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Prog metal????
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Posted: June 28 2010 at 02:10 |
- Anglagard - Spiral Architect - Canvas Solaris - Blotted Science
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Posted: June 22 2010 at 13:35 |
Green Carnation did The Acoustic Verses. I have not heard it myself, but with a name like that, maybe it's a softer album.
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 18:09 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
WW's storm season sounded pretty metallish to me. I guess I don't listen to enough metal or prog metal.
I guess maybe you also wouldn't consider Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Rush,Uriah Heep, Blue Oyster Cult. AC/DC, Def Leppard or Van Halen metal huh? Hey I knew one guy who didn't consider Black Sabbath heavy metal. |
Thats an unfair comparison, metal in the 70's and early 80's is very different to metal today, the bands you mentioned if they started today would be hard rock and not metal, but they were definitely metal in the 70's. Yeah, Storm Season has that heavy second guitar running through half of the album or more, but the rest of the band play in a distinctly non metal way, so what I hear is an excellent symphonic prog album with a heavy slant.
And another suggestion to list, Borknagar released an excellent acoustic album in Origin, then there's Epicas Score, which is more of a classical album than anything else.
Edited by sleeper - June 18 2010 at 18:10
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