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    Posted: April 24 2017 at 06:29
Ha ha yes I know, it's on the way right now. I don't have my hopes up really, I just hope it's a good album, I don't expect more than that.
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Sag, wake up  !

Résultat de recherche dimages pour "maxophone la fabbrica"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfVERma3rNE&list=PLxq0NvHXVd_C4SczUKY3J8XbjJvIoCAES
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2017 at 10:47
oh yeah..... to all our Italian friends LOL



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^Great music, strange clip lol
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First single from their upcoming album Thumbs Up

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It's actually been a lot of fun, and very gratifying once I find a pressing that I am in love with! 
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:


Thanks Todd! What an outstanding answer.   I appreciate the time and thought you put into my inquiry.
I will check your recommendation out. 

Ha! See, didn't I tell you Todd would likely be able to give you specific answers to help with your question?!    
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Thanks Todd! What an outstanding answer.   I appreciate the time and thought you put into my inquiry.
I will check your recommendation out. 
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Oh no! It's the self-titled Finisterre debut from 1995!

I have struggled to fall in love with that band. I'll give it another try.
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As I see it, the problem with "audiophile" recommendations is similar to the problem of any music recommendations in general--they are entirely subjective! So I've learned whom to trust with regard to both. I have sorted through various recordings, generally both multiple CD versions and various vinyl rips (which in turn are dependent upon the inherent sound of the issue, the condition, and the rig of the ripper...), and I have learned what I prefer. Then I have found those with similar audio preferences and have sought their recommendations (Jeff Carney has never steered me wrong in the audiophile realm). In like manner, I have learned that there are some reviewers and site members whose tastes approach mine in a particular facet of prog. (Side note: DR values may have their place, IMO, but are not definitive.)

So before I recommend my favorite version of Zarathustra, I need to explain that I prefer a natural, maybe even flat sound, with little processing or boosting and no noise reduction. So initial vinyl pressings are usually best, and early CD issues are often best or close to it. But not always! 

For Zarathustra, I currently own or have listened to the following CD versions:
1987 Nexus K32Y 2117 / 1993 Crime KICP 2710 (they are the same pressing)
1990 Contempo CONTEDISC004
1997 BMG/Ricordi 74321531842
2003 Japan BMG mini BVCM-37425

As well as a rip of LP reissue 2009 Sony 88697428191

Of all of these, my favorite is the Nexus / Crime version. Great dynamic range, no noise reduction, not much boosting.

I have found that the first Mellow/Philips pressings to be the very best sounding (Jumbo, Balletto di Bronzo, Maxophone, etc). The early Japanese issues on Nexus/Crime/King/Edison/Seven Seas almost always have great sound--again, according to my criteria. The early Mellow and Vinyl Magic versions are generally very good too. Even the BTF mini issues are generally very good sounding. As a rule, even though the packaging is the best, the Japanese minis do not have very good sound, except for the 2003 Arcangelo series and the recent Belle Antique version of the Biglietto per l'Inferno debut (which is a new vinyl rip).

If you find that your audio tastes are similar to mine, I am always willing to share my favorite versions.

Edit: Please note that the first Mellow/Philips pressings are different from the early Mellow pressings!



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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

^ I have this one and I'm very happy with it. The OBI says it's a 24 bit mastering, although a CD doesn't support so much depth.

It's probably my ears and not the recording.  I actually bought my copy after reading that it wasn't as compressed as earlier copies and had a dynamic range of 11. 

Perhaps that's why at the beginning of the disc the piano bit drops off a cliff and the vocals sound like their in a well, forcing me to up the volume.  Then at 2:30 mark the vocals and guitar kick in and I'm forced to turn down the volume.  Perhaps it's not the recording and MR recorded the opening vocals hollow like on purpose? 

I might be hunting for a Jabberwocky. Still,  I would appreciate any comments on other recordings.  


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^ I have this one and I'm very happy with it. The OBI says it's a 24 bit mastering, although a CD doesn't support so much depth.
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I'm looking for an superior CD recording of Museo Rosenbach Zarathustra.   I'm not happy with my copy of Zarathustra- CD Sony Music - 88875000442 (2014, Italy)

Thanks in advance for audiophile recommendations.


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Oh no! It's the self-titled Finisterre debut from 1995!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2017 at 12:15
^Michael, for some reason I can't see the image you included. What album are you referring to?
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Does anybody else think this album is just top-notch?



I unbelievably came across CD's of their first two albums in a second-hand record shop that rarely ever has too much prog, let alone ITALIAN prog...and you especially don't find those early Mellow Records discs much anymore.

For shame to whoever cashed them in in the first place...but thanks!
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Awesome, mate....I had planned to simply buy it sound-unheard anyway, but I only thought to ask at this exact moment because I'm grooving my sandals off to the self-titled disc on nightshift at work right now!

It's funny, it's not one I play nearly often enough (even though I know the LP well enough), but it wins me over more and over every single time.
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^ I'm surprised at how good it is. After some of the lackluster comebacks of late, I wasn't expecting much, but it is really good! It continues the spirit of the wonderful 1975 album fairly well, not quite as adventurous but just as lovely. I don't think you will be disappointed.
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Has anyone heard the latest Maxophone disc? Thoughts, please!
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