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Finnforest
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Holy cow, sounds pretty tasty.... |
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Finnforest
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^I was just playing Clowns today and loving it. Todd, do you know if the Japan mini sounds much better than the Mellow issue?
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Todd
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Hey, this looks like a great new album on Black Widow!!
Lots of names on this one, besides Nuova Idea, such as Mauro Pagani and Joe Vescovi. Another one to look forward to! Samples are on eMusic. I'll be putting this on the top of my list!
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Finnforest
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70s RPI cover band doing some great live stuff, check out this Semiramis cut
http://www.youtube.com/user/EffettoProgressivo#p/u/1/g_EQx3xQxzk |
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Andrea Cortese
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Paul, feel free to point the weaker parts (I will thank you for that, 'cause I'd like to improve, if it's possible)... it happened two or three times that litteral translation didn't sound to me very good and so I tried to use other words... on the other hand, I'm sure that an english band would have written the same lyrics in completely different way. |
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Nightfly
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Vault Pick: From a time when there wasn't a lot of great prog about......
Dopo L'infinito Nuova Era Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by ZowieZiggy This sort of albums are exactly conform to my expectations. Symphonic prog at its best!
It is full of pastoral and beautiful passages, very melodic and moving. Vocals are also very sweet (although this work is mostly instrumental) and are fully in-line with the intimate music which is played during the whole of this very good album. Two long songs, divided into shorter parts are the treat. There are hardly furious moments in here: it is almost all enchantment although some more upbeat music is experienced while the fourth part of the title track is being played. ''Dentro L'Ignoto'' is one of the longest section and shows the dexterity of their guitar player and a more aggressive band as usual. But that's fine, since this epic might have been too uniform otherwise. The closing part ''Rassegnezione'' is another charming short piece. The only point that is missing in this epic, is probably a higher sense of unity. There are no recurrent theme which could relate the different parts. This album is strongly dominated by Walter Pini (their mentor really) who is in charge of the keys department. While these are wonderfully combined with the smooth voice from Ivan Pini during ''Ai Margini Dell'Olimpo'' it really provokes a great and emotional feeling. A highlight. Just like there was a more upbeat part in the first epic, the second one also holds a more bombastic section: ''Miraggio Cosmico'' is a keyboards feast: great synthesizers, some sort of a tribute to Banks and Wakeman. Some ''Watcher'' sounds just before an extremely passionate guitar break (Steve, where are you?). This part of ''Pianeta Transparente'' is the most vibrant one from this whole album. Needless to say that this work scores pretty high in my ears. This album holds everything a lover of the Italian genre is waiting for. The closing section from the second epic is there to confirm. Four stars. |
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Nightfly
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I'm sure your translation is fine Andrea. One thing I've noticed over the years is when languages are translated literally word for word they don't always make the same sense they probably did in their original form and require a bit of tweaking to pull them into shape.
Maybe this contributes to why us RPI lovers think the bands should sing in Italian which comes across as much more poetic.
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Andrea Cortese
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Thank you Paul.
My aim is translating in an acceptable way... it's a "training"... you know, I will be (or so I should) in California the next july so I hope to refine my primitive english... or is it only a "self-confidence thing"?.... well, I only have to wait until july ehe he he h Add to that the fact that I really like the record and that I wanted to do useful thing to my neighbours and fellow proglovers... Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 06 2011 at 17:48 |
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Nightfly
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Thanks for taking the trouble Andrea. It makes interesting reading.
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Andrea Cortese
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"Le Due Metà di una Notte", fourth track from Il Tempio delle Clessidre's album… romantic lyrics as in Boccadasse… would you have said it? eh eheheh
IL TEMPIO DELLE CLESSIDRE THE TEMPLE OF HOURGLASSES LE DUE META' DI UNA NOTTE THE TWO HALVES OF A NIGHT
Scendi, sera, e porta qui il tuo silenzio, Come down, evening, bring here your silence, lembi di tramonto, schegge di opale, strips of sunset, chips of opal, lei mi attrae verso sé col dolce profumo, she pulls me to her within sweet perfume, indugia accanto a me e così mi confonde, stays beside me and then confuses me, porta via la realtà. brings away the reality.
Un passo, vieni avanti, sfiorami A step, come closer, touch me lightly, danza insieme a me, accarezzami, dance with me, caress me, tieni le tue mani sui miei occhi keep your hands on my eyes mentre i sensi scivolano via. while senses fade away.
Ora la magia perpetua l’incanto Now magic perpetuates the enchantment di ogni momento scritto negli occhi, of every moment written in the eyes, trema il cuore dentro me, è un azzurro oblio my heart trembles, it’s an azure oblivion di sfumata aurora e così mi sorprende, of soft dawn and so it surprises me, ridipinge la realtà. re-paints the reality.
Andiamo, corri forte, seguimi, Let’s go, run fast, follow me, non aver paura, fidati, don’t be afraid, believe (in me), brilliamo come stelle siderali we shine like sidereal stars e aspettiamo il sole, vita mia. and let’s wait for the sun, my life. Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 05 2011 at 08:01 |
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Andrea Cortese
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Now it's the turn of "Boccadasse", the third track from Il Tempio delle Clessidre's album... Boccadasse is an ancient maritime village near
Genova, town home of the band. Look at the pic below. IL TEMPIO DELLE CLESSIDRE THE TEMPLE OF HOURGLASSES BOCCADASSE BOCCADASSE
Si accende ad un tratto il mattino, All at once lights up the morning, fresca la brezza si inonda di pallido sole, fresh breeze is filled with pale sun, ti invita a distendere il petto invites you to stretch your chest e schiarire la voce. and to clear your throat.
Nel puro silenzio minuscule case e sentieri In pure silence tiny houses and paths offrono dolci carezze di caldi colori offer sweet caresses of warm colours e il viso si specchia sul loro sorriso. and face is mirrored in their smile.
Scorre, solca il mare la vela intorno a te Flows, around you, the sail on the sea la sua scia dipinge l’anima. its wake paints the soul.
La pioggia che scende sul mare The rain falling on the sea tende l’orecchio al grido dei bianchi gabbiani, keeps an ear to the shouts of white gulls, attendono ormai l’indomani i tuoi pescatori your fishermen wait for the day after ed ogni sera la piccolo spiaggia raccolta and each evening the small, tiny beach accoglie chi cerca cornice alle sue riflessioni welcomes who search for a setting to his thinking e confida ad amici frammenti di vita. and who entrusts to friends his own fragments of life.
Scorre, solca il mare la vela intorno a te Flows, around you, the sail on the sea la sua scia dipinge l’anima. its wake paints the soul. e rincorre i ricordi il mio cuore verso te, and my heart chases memories of you, simmetria che ho dentro l’anima. symmetry I have inside my soul. |
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toroddfuglesteg
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Check out the albums from both Black Widow Records and Altrock Records. Those are a good start.
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DamoXt7942
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Please check Italian electronic gems (released via PDU label) Hydrus and Elektriktrus.
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toroddfuglesteg
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Agree. Malibran must be included in this list. (which reminds me; I should move them to the top of my to-review list) |
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Aragon
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Ehy you miss Malibran from Sicily Edited by Aragon - January 03 2011 at 06:12 |
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topographicbroadways
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this should keep me busy for a while much appreciated
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timothy leary
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Nuova Era is a wonderful RPI band
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Finnforest
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Well, recommendations questions always bother me because there is just too much great stuff to list, and invariably I will miss listing some great stuff, but what the hell? Duty calls, one must try! Apologies in advance to the great bands I forget.... First, these old timers have released great NEW product since the 1970s....you might wanna check. RRR Delirium Opus Avantra PFM Latte Miele I know I'm forgetting a bunch here. As for contemporary artists, here's a few ideas... Abash Absenthia Altare Thotemico Architrave Independente Areknames (updated VDGG style) Il Bacio Della Medusa (their 2nd album is a PA favorite) Baroque (wild alt-prog) Bededeum (folk) Colster (instrumental rock) DFA (incredible fusion band) Deux Ex Machina (updated Area kinda) Filoritmia (haven't heard it but others like it) I Treni All Alba (great prog-folk) Mappe Nootiche (spacey post electronica) Minstrel Lorenzo Monni (modern, electronic, guitarscapes) Natural Mystic (cool eclectic band) Nichelodeon (avant) NoSound Ossi Duri (zappa flavor) Pandora (modern symph w/ heavy edge) Stefano Panunzi (crossover-have not heard, but other like) Port Royal (post, ambient) Il Ruscello Stereokimono (psych/modern) Il Tempio delle Clessidre (RPI title of the year) 3 Monks (amazing gothic prog/church organ rock) Universal Totem Orchestra (avant) VIII Strada (symph metal) Yugen (avant) Castello di Atlante Edited by Finnforest - January 01 2011 at 22:21 |
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Finnforest
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Right on Torodd....both cakes are delicious....
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toroddfuglesteg
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If my perceived views is promoting the new scene and it's bands; I am more than happy with that. But frankly, I am not taking any side in a debate like that. A debate I am sure will rage on an on for the next 100 years. I just says "thank you" when given the choice between two types of cakes. Pre or post '89; it all sounds excellent to me in my twin turbo rocking chair (with climate control). |
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