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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2010 at 04:48
Seems I've stumped you again- you got the band (with a hint) but no one got the song. It's Love On A Real Train from 1984's Risky Business. *shudder*
 
Oh well, here's your next assignment ;) This is a hard one as the sample is not that distinctive, but it's from a song almost everyone here will have heard.
 
A hip-hop instrumental this time too, all you rap haters.
 
(sample I'm looking for doesn't appear till over :30 seconds in)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 11:57
Feedback: Yes this thread is very intriguing! I never knew any of these songs existed with prog in them (though, not being a fan of rap, I wouldn't...). The Moonchild one was great if you ignore the talking; but I guess that defeats the object of the genre.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 05:46

Oh yeah she's absolutely horrible. I've got some more interesting rappers lined up next but I'll let someone name the sample first.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 05:43
The TD track is one of their better known soundtrack cuts, maybe Midnight Express or that one about a thief, I don't remember the name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 05:03
Not me, I don't have any TD

Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 05:01
You got it! I wonder if I gave it away with my clue ;)

But who can be first to name the track?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 04:54
There is background track that somehow reminds me of Tangerine Dream. Any close?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:26
Joelkid: Yeah I agree. Even though Blood Money 3 is let down a bit by the lyrics, the use of the Renaissance sample is highly unexpected and quite refreshing/engaging.
 
Chris S: Thanks :)
 
I'm expecting Kid Sister's Let Me Bang (a particularly nauseating rapper btw, maybe I'll switch back into trying to use some good ones after this) to be another stumper but then that's what I said about Blood Money 3 and it was spotted right away so who knows ;)
 
As I said, I've heard this act sampled a few times and I never notice it- the nature of the noise they make always blends right into the beat, doesn't stick out much. There, that's a little bit of a clue ;)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:21
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I can't believe you even had time to hear it seven times. I'm very impressed Mr Progkidjoel, but I have to say I'm also a little suspicious, I was sure that was a potential stumper ;)

I was just working off the little backing riff (hence the 7 times comment) and it instantly clicked as something I've heard before That's a great sample though, I like it when they actually use it in a creative fashion.

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Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Alright, let's see if you can do that twice in a row ProgKidJoel. Another hard one imo I always find this band's samples very hard to detect.
 

Edit: Listening to it now, not ringing any bells at all. Not even sure of which section has been sampled Will give it another listen later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:15
Alright, let's see if you can do that twice in a row ProgKidJoel. Another hard one imo
I always find this band's samples very hard to detect.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:14
I can't believe you even had time to hear it seven times. I'm very impressed Mr Progkidjoel, but I have to say I'm also a little suspicious, I was sure that was a potential stumper ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:12
It's a higher version of the main riff from Can You Understand by Renaissance, I believe. Took me about 7 listens to get it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:09
Yep. You're good at this Chris S, catching up on Snow Dog.
 
btw, is this thread surprising you guys so far? It's just people were falling out of their trees about Kanye West and King Crimson so I wondered if learning that it's been going on for decades makes people rethink sampling's limits and history and the types of music that fed into hip-hop.
 
Here's a similar one but MUCH tougher- I'll be impressed if someone gets this.
 
It's similar in that it's another complete juxtaposition. Capone and Noreaga are a noted rap duo, capable of producing good rap music. Their tracks tend to be standard street issue stuff but they do a better job of it than most.
 
Except on the singles where label pressures and their own fears about their commercial potential cause them to become particularly dumb. This song is a typical "gangster get money" track.
 
BUT
 
it samples a much loved prog act. And the thing is, I couldn't think of a less likely act to be sampled for an album that was actually called Thugged Da f**k Out. Really goes to show you can sample anything for anything if the producer's got an ear for it.
 
But can you pick the sample? Like I said, I think this is a toughie...
 
 
Don't be distracted by the piece of music at the start- the sample is in the main track that begins at :12.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 03:03
King Crimson - Moonchild

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 02:38
You got it!

OK next one is SUPER easy as it's a prog standard but I'll still see if you guys can get it right away.
 
I more use it as an illustration of the odd effect sampling can have if you notice it. If you just treat this sample as sound it doesn't matter, but if you actually listen to the lyrics used, it has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the song. And if you happen to know the sample (which Mims' target audience certainly wouldn't) the clash of the worlds of cheesy pop rap and prog rock legend is disorienting. A lot of the rappers I've been using are respected/underground types, the sort of stuff I actually listen to. Mims, the guy this next song belongs to, is a plain and simple commercial palooka with very little to recommend him. And yet he uses this sort of arcane sample from a super serious prog band here. Sometimes you think a rapper puts real thought into his beat collection but on this occassion I'd eat my hat if it wasn't a beat that just got passed to him by the label.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 02:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 02:30
This is an interesting idea for a game.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 02:26
Nope. I hope people haven't figured out what it is and are teasing me by pretending they haven't ;)
 
If it helps, the sample is sped up. Imagine it being played at half speed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2010 at 02:24
The Procession/White Rider?
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