Joanna Newsom for prog folk - again!! |
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rogerthat
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Topic: Joanna Newsom for prog folk - again!! Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:52 |
I know she has been suggested several times unsuccessfully but here goes again. I mean, come on, there aren't too many more obvious suggestions that have been so consistently rebuffed, frankly. For crying out loud, her music has more in common with Red Queen to Gryphon Three than Liege and Lief. Could somebody from the prog folk team be kind enough to answer why a track like this has absolutely nothing to do with prog-folk so as to not merit consideration for inclusion?
If this has any persuasive value, here are the album credits for Have One on Me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_One_on_Me I understand her childlike style of singing is not everyone's cup of tea - and as much as I appreciate her ambitious songwriting, it's not mine either - but last time I checked, that didn't stop people adding Kate Bush. And no, I am not going into "If X, then Y", I am saying least of all on a prog forum, we can't be the high priests of aesthetics and 'taste'. I am saying all this only because one of the collabs expressed strong disgust after listening to Milk Eyed Mender; I hope that was not a reason not to consider her work seriously. Edited by rogerthat - December 18 2010 at 09:55 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 10:05 |
If you want this suggestion to stand a chance then submit it for Crossover
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 10:06 |
I read the thread created by Textbook a few months back. Pretty mystifying though, all this resistance. Maybe because she's not British.
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keiser willhelm
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:10 |
have any of them even listened to Ys? honestly. Bjork? hell yeah she's weird. Newsom? hell NO!she plays a f**kin harp!
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:12 |
That is more or less what I had suggested after the Bjork inclusion (not that I necessarily question that one). Somewhere, weirdness seems to dictate 'controversial' additions. I don't even know what's so controversial about suggesting Joanna Newsom, except she's not already called prog. But if new prog already sounded enough like existing prog music, what's progressive about that anyway?
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lucas
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:24 |
Roy Harper opened for her in Paris some months ago, and said that Joanna and himself were two pioneers of folk music.
Ys is indeed an adventurous piece of music, and if only for that album I would include her in prog-folk.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:26 |
They'll take her in Xover. They've got Bjork after all.
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:28 |
Get her into PROG, I don't care which sub.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:32 |
I would hardly call the Xover category PROG these days.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 14:01 |
^ That's your opinion and that's what it is, only opinion. EDIT: It's quite tiring to hear this from you over and over again. You sound like Walter now. Edited by Marty McFly - December 18 2010 at 14:03 |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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Angelo
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 14:17 |
It's simple... she lacks the 'rock' part of 'progressive rock', as does Björk, unfortunately.
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lucas
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 14:59 |
Marty, your animated picture is disturbing. I hope you are aware of this.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Chris S
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 15:05 |
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Chris S
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 15:07 |
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 21:58 |
Well, JT is among the few prog folk bands in whose music I emphatically hear the rock part of it. And that is probably because they were a lot of things and not just folk. Besides, Bjork is on PA.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:44 |
EVERYTHING POST 89 SUCKS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIKE MUSIC FROM THERE ARE DIPsh*tS I may sound like a broken record, but I was making an honest suggestion - recommending her for Xover would get her in. Edited by King By-Tor - December 18 2010 at 22:47 |
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Chris S
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:50 |
^ No it would not
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:53 |
teehee, defense mode on the interwebz is amusing.
Yeah, so I've been reduced to trolling, I'll be the first to admit that. |
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:58 |
Your cognitive dissonance will never go away if you start to care about what artists PA adds.
You can't stop Bjork. You can't stop Tori Amos. Lady Gaga and Ani DiFranco will eventually be here under Crossover. sadfrog.jpg |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 23:00 |
You're right. And since I no longer have any emotion vested in the artists added to this site I think I'll just stand back and watch from a distance.
It's a shame I defiled this thread though, I do like Joanna Newsom from what I've heard. I can not judge whether it is actually prog or not based on the guidelines of the site. [/trolling this thread] |
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