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    Posted: April 15 2006 at 11:31
Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:

Originally posted by russellk russellk wrote:



Solitude is Ozzy (as is the superior 'Planet Caravan' from Paranoid). The
first non-Ozzy vocal was Geezer Butler on 'It's Alright' (Technical Ecstasy).

Pretty damn sure it was Bill Ward singing on It's Alright ...

yeah i think it was Bill Ward too. Ozzy sang on both Planet Caravan and Solitude, but his voice was distorted with some type of effect (i read somewhere that he sang directly into a fan, but i dont really believe that )
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I also saw sabbath live just a week ago. What an incredible show it was. the only thing that annoyed me is that they started playing the riff to Symptoms of the Universe, but after 10 seconds switched into another song... I hoped they would play symptoms
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:16
I dont agree with sabbath and zep being on this site because even though they may hav created a couple of songs that may be considered prog they do not specialize in the genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:13

Please dont compare sabbath with prog it makes me not wanna listen to them anymore!!

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Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

"Solitude" is one of my favourite tracks and i was wondering who does the beautiful vocals? dont sound like ozzy, im guessing iommi or butler. I love the flute, this track is a bit like i talk to the wind


As has been said before, it is Ozzy on vocals - but you have Iommi to thank for the flute playing.

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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2005 at 18:11

More candidates for the "History of Metal" thread?

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7402&a mp;PN=1

 
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i would say that megadeth have more prog leanings than metallica but both probably fall short of being true prog.
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Metallica are also on Vertigo Records.
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Originally posted by James Hill James Hill wrote:

I love Black Sabbath the masters of metal.If you think about it they invented all forms of metal.Gothic metal Vol 1,doom metal Paranoid or Masters of Reality,progressive and speed metal on Vol 4,Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and of course Sabatage.


I agree with Gothic and Doom, but I can't really see how they invented prog or speed metal - I would have said NWOBHM bands like Raven and Jaguar are more likely candidates for speed metal, or maybe Judas Priest.

Prog metal was invented by Rush!
 
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Yeah why not? Their one of my favorite bands so i have no problems with teme bing adeed and they did many progresiv songs, and Wakeman played on Sabbath bloody sabbath so they must be a prog band.

And allso i seriusly think that metallica shuld be included Their music was very progresiv. And they broke much new ground from album to album starting with Ride the lightning. If radiohead is here and Queensryche, Metallica shuld absolutly be hear too.

And i agree Solitude is very beautiful Sabbaths best ballad.



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Completely agree, they should be added. How does a controversial band get added to the archives? Through the use of a poll, for the forum using community to voice their opinions?
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They were on the Prog label VERTIGO and they are Prog in my view who else could do a track like "Planet Caravan" in 1970.

They deserve a place here alongside Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Cream and Iron Butterfly, I know not everyone will agree but I can defeltely see Prog/Psych in their music.

If they were to be added file them under Progressive Metal.

 
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They are Godfathers of Heavy Metal with significant prog leanings IMO.

I love the track 'Solitude' too

I think Sabotage is their finest album by far IMO, and perhaps their most prog. I dont think there is a duff track on there, and Meglomania, and The Writ are absolute classics

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I love Black Sabbath the masters of metal.If you think about it they invented all forms of metal.Gothic metal Vol 1,doom metal Paranoid or Masters of Reality,progressive and speed metal on Vol 4,Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and of course Sabatage.I must ad that Tony Iommi is the most underrated axman in the history of rock music.True I love prog with a passion but metal will always bring out the man,and metal will always be a male form of music,in me.
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Originally posted by russellk russellk wrote:



Solitude is Ozzy (as is the superior 'Planet Caravan' from Paranoid). The
first non-Ozzy vocal was Geezer Butler on 'It's Alright' (Technical Ecstasy).

Pretty damn sure it was Bill Ward singing on It's Alright ...

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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2005 at 23:26

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

If you want a sure way to get to sleep fast, put Marillion on. Right Tux!

Yes.........ehr......

 

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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2005 at 19:06

i've decided to listen to the first track off still life (i can listen out for the ghostly cough) and then switch over to sabbath.

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Points: 26 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2005 at 18:56

If bands like Symphony X, DT, Fates Warning, Styx, Radiohead, etc., can be counted as prog open the doors for the most evil of all dark heavy rock: Sabbath. Fairies Wear Boots and Symptom Of The Universe can be up with the best of the genre, and songs like Planet Caravan and Solitude are very symphonic. The only thing I never really liked from Balck Sabbath was Ozzy Osborne's vocals but they were a very tight group.

Just like witches at black masses...
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If you want a sure way to get to sleep fast, put Marillion on. Right Tux!
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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2005 at 18:48
anyway, tuxon me old chum, i am off to bed soon (23:45 here for the non brits), i do not know whether to listen to Opeth - Still Life or Black Sabbath - Best of (Disc One)on my walkman to help me drift off.

which disc should i choose?
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