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Triceratopsoil View Drop Down

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:24

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 19:54

Blackfield never were anything special, and from the beginning struck me as Wilson's weakest project. It is all fairly well arranged pop music with horrid lyrics, but it has never been much more.

I hate to fault Wilson, as Porcupine Tree were a huge influence for me and got me into prog more than any other artist, but he does his best work when he does not work in a verse-chorus format. Hence, Blackfield as a definite pop act were likely going to be something that really did not stand out as anymore than fairl well written pop with often inane lyrics.

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 20:03

Ditto.

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 20:36

QuestionableScum wrote:

Blackfield never were anything special, and from the beginning struck me as Wilson's weakest project. It is all fairly well arranged pop music with horrid lyrics, but it has never been much more.

I hate to fault Wilson, as Porcupine Tree were a huge influence for me and got me into prog more than any other artist, but he does his best work when he does not work in a verse-chorus format. Hence, Blackfield as a definite pop act were likely going to be something that really did not stand out as anymore than fairl well written pop with often inane lyrics.

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 21:29

I feel a bit better knowing that I'm not the only one who thinks the album is trash. I have not heard such a bad album in a long, long while.

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 21:45

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Can you honestly say this is a bad/mediocre song:

"One direction with no turning back.
Soon it will turn to black.
Soon it will turn to black."

Yes, I find this quite beautiful.

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 21:58

The Monodrone wrote:

Henry Plainview wrote:

"One direction with no turning back.
Soon it will turn to black.
Soon it will turn to black."

Yes, I find this quite beautiful.

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 22:00

Henry Plainview wrote:

The Monodrone wrote:

Henry Plainview wrote:

"One direction with no turning back.
Soon it will turn to black.
Soon it will turn to black."

Yes, I find this quite beautiful.

I smell a troll... Wink

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Posted: April 04 2011 at 22:19

I smell Henry being Henry. No troll.

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 04:54

If I were to enjoy albums for the quality of their lyrics, I probably wouldn't bother listening to music. If I want nice words, I pick up a book.

This album is more of the same Blackfield sound, albeit indeed more pop-oriented - but what's the problem with that? It's still good pop music, and I'll gladly listen to it over any of the drivel coming from comercial radio stations these days.

Edited by Kotro - April 05 2011 at 04:54

Bigger on the inside.

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 06:22

Triceratopsoil wrote:

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I listened to Blackfield for a first time ( 3-4 years past) because of SW name and credit.

Well maybe you should learn not to do that. I can't see why that particular name would incite anybody to jump all over any musical project anyway...

Names is a ONE way to choose a band for first time (IMO). I didn't say " SW in this band then it must be great!"

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 06:36

Sadly I really don't like this album at all after a few listens. There's one or two tracks that I like, the rest really do absolutely nothing for me. Not sure why, it all just sounds incredibly stale. I need to give it some more listens, but to echo what others have said, this is easily my least favourite Blackfield effort (compared to the other two which I adore).

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 06:38

I didn't focus to lyrics but "Welcome to...." forced me to listen lyrics! This album isn't a good POP album too. Not only about lyrics. Blackfield repeat their previous songs in this album with some changes and they corrupt good songs. They didn't release "New Album". Ofcourse this album have Blackfield touch because they copy their previouse songs!!

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 07:05

How is it "pop".? Does not prog = pop?

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 07:07

I found the first two albums, particularly the first one to have really depressing themes. Maybe this is just another way of depressing you. Tongue

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 08:22

Snow Dog wrote:

How is it "pop".? Does not prog = pop?

"Pop" as in "mainstream TV-prime-time Idol 2011 Justin Bieber pop"

Not "pop" as a generic term for "popular music".

I think most fans of popular music know the difference.

Edited by Bonnek - April 05 2011 at 08:23

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 08:41

Bonnek wrote:

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How is it "pop".? Does not prog = pop?

"Pop" as in "mainstream TV-prime-time Idol 2011 Justin Bieber pop"

Not "pop" as a generic term for "popular music".

I think most fans of popular music know the difference.

So Blackfield isn't pop? Or it is? I know my opinion and I know what i think pop is. I didn't actually need a definition.

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 10:12

Snow Dog wrote:

Bonnek wrote:

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How is it "pop".? Does not prog = pop?

"Pop" as in "mainstream TV-prime-time Idol 2011 Justin Bieber pop"

Not "pop" as a generic term for "popular music".

I think most fans of popular music know the difference.

So Blackfield isn't pop? Or it is? I know my opinion and I know what i think pop is. I didn't actually need a definition.

It looks to me like you're still confused Tongue

Of course Blackfield is "popular music", 90% of the PA database is.
Whether the new one is "Justin Bieber pop" or not, I can't say without listening, but Aviv Geffen solo stuff sure belongs to that category for me.

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 10:19

Bonnek wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Bonnek wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

How is it "pop".? Does not prog = pop?

"Pop" as in "mainstream TV-prime-time Idol 2011 Justin Bieber pop"

Not "pop" as a generic term for "popular music".

I think most fans of popular music know the difference.

So Blackfield isn't pop? Or it is? I know my opinion and I know what i think pop is. I didn't actually need a definition.

It looks to me like you're still confused Tongue

I wasn't confused in the first place and am still not. My question was rhetorical.

Geffens earlier stuff may have been pop. It was certainly popular amongst young Israeli females at the time. I haven't heard enough of him after that to judge. depends what one means by pop. It may be different for you.

I'm listening to Blackfield now. If asked to say ht it was like, Pop would not be one of my descriptions.

In its original meaning "pop" would cover all the bands in prog Archives. But i've said this before many times.

Edited by Snow Dog - April 05 2011 at 10:22

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Posted: April 05 2011 at 12:18

I get your mean Snow Dog. You right. I dont know POP definition. I dont think we have a same definition about POP but maybe 80% of us undrestand POP mean. No, not prog isn't mean POP. We have many not-prog genres like Blues, Hard Rock or... and we have not-prog Jazz or not-prog Heavy Metal (IMO). I think if we focus on this kind of definitions, We go far from this topic. "Welcome to..." isn't POP or Rock or any genres "Completely". In many moments its same like "Love Songs" or "Music for Lovers" but without adoptable lyrics and in many moments its seem like Hard Rock but without important specifics of this genre. They (Blackfield) try to use genres specifications and mix them with their own style. I think they are not successful (IMO) in this album.