![]() |
Faust, Wakhevitch and Art Zoyd Fausts |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Author | ||
Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Forum Moderator Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Utopia Status: Offline Points: 15242 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posted: May 04 2011 at 16:08 |
|
I chose three albums that I really like for this poll -- if you think of another worthy album with Faust in the title, please mention in a post.
Late EDIT to improve topic title and specify that I mean albums with "Faust" in the title Edited by Logan - May 15 2011 at 15:29 |
||
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
|
||
![]() |
||
CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10683 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I eat carrots on a rainy day with a sunshine girl and a sad skinhead.
|
||
![]() |
||
Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 116949 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Don't know the middle one, but of the other two I like Faust's Faust better. The AZ one is pretty cool though.
|
||
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
||
![]() |
||
Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 17915 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
||
![]() |
||
Gandalff ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 07 2007 Location: Middle-Earth Status: Offline Points: 4214 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I prefer only Faust by J. W. Goethe.
|
||
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
||
![]() |
||
Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Forum Moderator Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Utopia Status: Offline Points: 15242 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Please do check out the second vid I posted (some might be a little offended by images in it) and let me know what you think. I love Faust's self-titled, I like Art Zoyd's very much (I prefer the subsequent Art Zoyd album Haxan whiih I love), but I went with Docteur Faust. Edited by Logan - May 04 2011 at 16:41 |
||
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
|
||
![]() |
||
SaltyJon ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 08 2008 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 28772 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I haven't heard the Art Zoyd or the Wahkevitch yet...at least I don't think I've heard the Art Zoyd. I might have on Grooveshark, but I can't remember at the moment. No vote, due to lack of familiarity with 2/3 of the choices.
|
||
![]() |
||
zravkapt ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Post/Math Rock Team Joined: October 12 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6441 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
The only Igor I've heard are the streaming songs here, but there are a few and most of them are quite long. I slightly prefer the s/t Faust album to the AZ one, which is still great and I consider their 'comeback' album.
|
||
![]() |
||
colorofmoney91 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 16 2008 Location: Biosphere Status: Offline Points: 22774 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Definitely Wakhevitch.
|
||
![]() |
||
Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 9630 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Art Zoyd for me.
|
||
"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
||
![]() |
||
Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Forum Moderator Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Utopia Status: Offline Points: 15242 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
You know, I think this is just about the most evenly matched poll I've ever done which has received any votes (done some that had zero ties). I'm glad to see appreciation for all three of these, I think, excellent albums. I do love all three of these albums even though I chose the, I think superb, Docteur Faust.
Some more music for those unfamiliar with the choices (people should feel free to vote even if they've only listened to the streaming tracks, by the way). |
||
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
|
||
![]() |
||
Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Forum Moderator Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Utopia Status: Offline Points: 15242 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Here are some reviews and ratings of the albums. For balance I like to show positive and negative reviews which I think kind of important when doing these partially for greater exposure topics -- caveat emptor, but in the case of the Art Zoyd there is only one review, which is positive, so I chose the lowest rating to offset it, and with Wakhevitch's there are only two reviews and both are positive, so I chose the lowest rating there is for the album.
Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust
![]() ![]() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ART ZOYD - Faust avalanchemaster ![]() The music evokes the imagery so well in this album, that you feel as if you yourself are descending into the despair of an inescapable fatality.... The music starts immediately into a chilling descent, in the track "down" where the harmonies clash ever so slightly in such a way, building downward glissandi, in such a way that you are not quite sure if the pitch is descending, it is maddening and delirously dizzying- the way the music seems to bend downward, as if the protaganist (you) were being pulled into a descent of frustration, desperation, and madness. I must say this begins the nightmare rather well. This may just be the DARKEST album they have accomplished. Of the longer two songs on here (the rest are shorter segues of textural and subliminal, minimalistic and potently emotional bridges that blend into each other- each one a cliff-hanger setting you up impatiently, even cautiously for the next), Gate Of Darkness 1 is palpable in its building crescendo- erecting the very gates of an entry into the darkest concept imaginable... as if one were staring into a portal that accesses the very depths of a grand and beautifully terrifying hell. It is a curious vista, one which begs you enter it. It does not overstay its welcome. As I write this review, it is the day before Halloween (Samhain), and nothing could be more proper than the ritualistic invocation of the true concept of the once pagan holiday... utilizing dark music to set the scene. Although for the most part I love this album, I find that a few of the songs unnecessarily repeat a groove or notion. There are however always leading voices over this groove that solo, yet I almost expect the music to follow a more bold classical feel, wherein the individual voices lead their own way, pulling in different sections, yet many of the undercurrents build a gently boiling progression that builds, but at times is almost anti-climactic. To its credit, there are many more exotic instruments used here... very mysterious feeling abound. The music here is more concerned with building an overall brooding feel. I am impressed that the collective known as Art Zoyd have managed to modernize their sound in such a way that they obviously did their homework, by this I mean they were heavily influenced by industrial and IDM and electronic/experimental acts. The sounds used here are almost Musique Concrete meets drone and dark ambient. There is a lot of texture and implied rhythm and beats, making this more subliminal and slow-moving rather than immediate like most of their other albums. I suppose it helps to have been exposed to the forementioned styles of music- in order to appreciate this album more. They utilize a pounding rain in one track, with rhythmic thunder claps. Another track has a cawing crow. I thought I heard a zither, repeating a haunting arpeggio. In the song Pact, you feel as if the deal is sealed with the appearance of dark minions crawling on the floor towards you, branding your soul as you sign in blood. Although a short movement, the track Irruption is a clanging, pounding, demonic and metallic (in the sense that it sounds like a punishing heavy metal track, yet more industrial) passage that I wish they would have fleshed out more. It is intense and very driving. Dies Irae (day of wrath) is another favorite song, once again evoking the essence of an apocalyptic embodiment. Essaim, which is basically a word for a swarm of insects, constructs that very notion. It is like a manifestation of a plague. I actually imagined more of a "lord of the flies" sort of image, like the coalescence of flies, constructing the devil himself. It is a very rousing track. Accelerando is, just as the title suggests, a song that builds from a slow pulse of chimes in the fore with bass thump in the back, the rhythm of the chime multiplies exponentially every couple of measures and then subsides; then the bass takes its turn... the song ebbs and flows in the fashion.... building building building and releasing (etc.) As stated, many of the tracks are withdrawn and scared, quietly crawling... Overall I would say that this album utilizes the ambient and chilling elements that make Art Zoyd so engrossing... I imagine that experimental Norwegian act Ulver has listened to this band at length... as they use some of the same tricks of suspense and impact through layering and building. This is the french equivalent of a horror soundtrack, although not cheesy. Its unfortunate that more people have not given this one a chance. I find that I enjoy horror movies quite a bit for the score... the way it manipulates your emotions and lends a real sense to the scenes that flash by, without which you would probably laugh at implied horrors. This album is oozing infection and erosion.
Send comments to avalanchemaster
![]() ![]() Posted Saturday, October 30, 2010 | Review Permalink ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- FAUST - Faust LedBerry71 ![]()
LedBerry71 |
5/5 |
burgersoft777 ![]()
burgersoft777 |
1/5 |
|
||
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
|
||
![]() |
||
Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46300 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Can't beat Faust (err by Faust), totally bonkers. And masterliness, too.
|
||
![]() |
||
![]() |
||
Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Forum Moderator Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Utopia Status: Offline Points: 15242 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Little bump cause I think all three are really good albums and I hope more people will check out the vids i posted and share fairly detailed impressions, be they good or bad.
Edited by Logan - May 15 2011 at 15:37 |
||
"The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views" (Doctor Who - The Face of Evil, Jan 22, 1977).
|
||
![]() |
||
Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 116949 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I'll assist in the bumping due to the fact that due to this thread I found myself a copy of Wakhevitch's Doctour Fasut. And it's quite good. Not as electronic as I expected. Loved that drum/bass duet in whatever song it was, and it ended on a strong note.
Still, not as good as the other two IMHO, but certainly worthy of investigation by avant fans.
|
||
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
||
![]() |
||
Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 2598 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Docteur Faust is way better than anything in the poll, on PA, and pretty much anywhere else. Anyone who thinks differently is wrong and just needs to listen to it more.
|
||
![]() |
||
![]() |
||
Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Dolly Parton Status: Offline Points: 20566 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I voted for Docteur Faust myself - I´ve been listening a lot to it lately, and i really love the psychedelic element to it. I actually heard Faust s/t this morning ridiculously loud, to get even with my upstairs neighbor, who woke me very early with Bailamos or whatever it´s called by butter-tenor Enrique Iglesias. P.S. Thank you for those Mwandishi related recommendations some time ago. I am over the moon in love with Sun Ra´s Lanquidity and the Donald Byrd one! Just brilliant stuff
![]() |
||
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
||
![]() |
||
Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Dolly Parton Status: Offline Points: 20566 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I recently listened to Faust's version of Faust (sounds positively loopy) and I was surprised of how good it was. As much as I dig the newer stuff, I don't hear anything that comes close to moistening me knickers the way say IV or So Far do. -Maybe except for the collab they did with Dhälek.
On this occasion though, I was really feeling em. Great album
![]() |
||
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
||
![]() |
||
HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 23357 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
||
My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
||
![]() |
||
hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
IGOR
![]() ![]() |
||
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |