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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 03:42
This isn't remotely surprising. I'm really looking forward to this but at the same time, I agree with the couple other people about being disappointed that there will be no harsh vocals. For me it's not a matter of being closed minded, it's just a matter of LOVING his harsh vocals, and so the notion that he might continue down this path is worrisome, not because the music will be bad, because that's doubtful, but because I might not be able to hear new great death metal from Opeth again. /run on sentence

With that being said, if the next 5 or 10 albums Opeth puts out have no harsh vocals, I'm sure they will be great and that I will continue to purchase said albums, assume Opeth's passion is behind it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 03:21
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a  change in a band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.

I think people complaining about the cover are complaining about it because it's a bad cover. 


I wasnt talking about the cover itself (which is what sparked this thread), but what MA and the journalist said describing the music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 03:09
 
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a  change in a band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.

I think people complaining about the cover are complaining about it because it's a bad cover. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 02:55
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a  change in a band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.


Yeah, I agree. It seems as though it's often the case that as fans, we feel a kind of disturbing ownership of a band, and that we feel any perceived betrayal of Form/Direction/Change in a highly personal way.

On one hand, at least we love the band/music enough to commit to some emotional investment. On the other, I imagine it's far more respectful toward the band to relax, sit back and see where they take you, and be happy for them for trying new things, for challenging themselves and doing something they want to do.


I think it's great what they're doing. I, for example, haven't cared for the band much since around 2006, and I used to be a big fan of their music. My tastes changed dramatically, and even when Watershed came out, I was ho-hum about it. This has recaptured my interest, and I can see why MA has decided to do what he wants to do. I respect him for that.


Yeah. I have less favourites on Watershed than say, 'Ghost' or 'Blackwater' and am really interested to hear this one, and even the cover and the tiny amount of info we have has really sparked my interest too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 02:48
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a  change in a band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.


Yeah, I agree. It seems as though it's often the case that as fans, we feel a kind of disturbing ownership of a band, and that we feel any perceived betrayal of Form/Direction/Change in a highly personal way.

On one hand, at least we love the band/music enough to commit to some emotional investment. On the other, I imagine it's far more respectful toward the band to relax, sit back and see where they take you, and be happy for them for trying new things, for challenging themselves and doing something they want to do.


I think it's great what they're doing. I, for example, haven't cared for the band much since around 2006, and I used to be a big fan of their music. My tastes changed dramatically, and even when Watershed came out, I was ho-hum about it. This has recaptured my interest, and I can see why MA has decided to do what he wants to do. I respect him for that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 02:43
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a  change in a band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.


Yeah, I agree. It seems as though it's often the case that as fans, we feel a kind of disturbing ownership of a band, and that we feel any perceived betrayal of Form/Direction/Change in a highly personal way.

On one hand, at least we love the band/music enough to commit to some emotional investment. On the other, I imagine it's far more respectful toward the band to relax, sit back and see where they take you, and be happy for them for trying new things, for challenging themselves and doing something they want to do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 01:51
It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a  change in a band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2011 at 01:38
Disappointed that the power of Mikael's DM vocals will be gone, but we'll get some powerful stuff in other departments, I bet. Some awesome riffs, interesting structures and a band relaxing and playing something they want to play.

Overall, sounds ace, I'm struggling to wait for September.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 23:11
Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

I listen to many kinds of music. I don't have this problem. But for me a work is incomplete if it doesn't have the hate and the anger of death/black metal. 

I kinda agree with you on this, but only when it comes to Opeth. They are my favorite metal band and the ones wh turned me into growling.

Still, it does sound good and I´m hoping to be proven wrong!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 23:00
Hessian Peel alone boosts that album. What a brilliant song.
Also I'm with Pat, I like Porcelain Heart as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 22:56
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

But Watershed isn't good either. The best songs were Heir Apparent and Lotus Eater. Burden and Coil bored the hell out of me - but so did the second half of that album.

I wouldn't call Burden or Coil particularly prog and neither song is particularly strong, but neither is the Lotus Eater or Heir Apparent. The Lotus Eater and Heir Apparent both suffer from having little atmosphere, and riffs that are not captivating at all.  

Hessian Peel, and Hex Omega on the other hand were two tracks that I absolutely loved, because of the familiar atmosphere that felt very Opeth, while pushing the band more towards a 70's trad prog approach in terms of instrumentation. 

But I imagine we have very different takes on Opeth given how you feel about Damnation, as I would place it as their 4th best album, only being surpassed by BWP, Still Life and Morningrise. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 22:22
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Maybe the new album will be 56 minutes of Weather Channel jazz.


OH GOD PLEASE YES! Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 22:15
Havent been excited for Opeth since 2005 so this will be an interesting release. If it comes out the same day as the new Dream Theater my face will explode!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 20:47
Maybe the new album will be 56 minutes of Weather Channel jazz.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 20:44
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

"return to form".

Translation: Appeasing the fickle fans who want a rehash of the same uninspired album over and over. Because eight albums worth of the exact same formula: DM verse into clean passage then rinse and repeat, just isn't enough. 


Suddenly, a random acoustic passage appeared.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 20:41
I really enjoy Porcelain Heart.  I don't get the hate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 20:20
I'm definitely excited for this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 20:12
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

"return to form".

Translation: Appeasing the fickle fans who want a rehash of the same uninspired album over and over. Because eight albums worth of the exact same formula: DM verse into clean passage then rinse and repeat, just isn't enough. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 19:56
Well... on the bright side - maybe this album will bomb and the band's next (in 2014) will be an amazing "return to form".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 19:55
I love Coil, Hessian Peel, and Lotus Eaters. Heir Apparent's best parts are the proggy stuff in the middle / late. Porcelain Heart and Burden were boring, but I think this could be quite good.
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