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    Posted: July 07 2011 at 13:37
we got any proggie trekkies if so what is your favorite star trek series?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 13:39
It is now closed but you might find this poll of interest.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62143&KW=star+trek&PID=3419415#3419415
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 13:42
Originally posted by kingcrimsonfan kingcrimsonfan wrote:

we got any proggie trekkies if so what is your favorite star trek series?


Yep love it. Well, the original series anyway. Cool Fave episodes was the pilot episode with the different captain (which was in two parts) and the time machine episode.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 14:20
Yes sir.
 
I'm a fan of The Next Generation and TOS mostly. Voyager had it's moments, but plenty of terrible episodes as well. DS9 never did it for me, though I haven't seen alot of the episodes. Enterprise was fairly terrible all around.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 14:25
I grew up with the original series, so that will always have a special place. Next generation had a terrible first season, and then improved to become an utter classic. DS9 was very dark, but contained some very intelligent sci-fi. Voyager was mostly awful, even allowing for Jeri Ryan's knockers, and Enterprise was just shockingly awful.

I liked the latest film a great deal BTW. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 14:29
I watched Star Trek: The Original Movie on Wednesday night, and I am pretty certain that it was the first time that I have seen it.  I don't know how I had never seen it before.  It wasn't very good.  I actually really liked Enterprise, but it was the first Star Trek series where I watched every episode from the first to last in order while it was being shown.
 
I have seen many episodes of The Original Series and The Next Generation and prefer The Next Generation.  I bought the entire TNG series on DVD and I am currently working my way through the episodes in order.  Currently I am in the beginning of the 4th season.  So far I have seen most of these episodes in rerun form over time, but there have been a couple that I don't remember at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 14:44
I enjoy the original series, and really look forward to checking out DS9 on DVD. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 14:45
I'm an original series man, myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 15:19
TNG was the first Trek series I ever watched, and it remains my favorite for a number of reasons: wonderful acting, wonderful characters, intelligent and interesting plots, good visual effects, complex themes and ideas, generally consistent writing (Seasons 1 was rather awful, and Seasons 2 and 7 had some lousy episodes, but the rest of the show was phenomenal).  Then I moved on to the original series and loved it (even if it does get cheesy from time to time, it's still wonderful television).  I never really got into DS9 or Enterprise, although I saw a few episodes of the latter and was mildly impressed.  Still far from the quality of TNG or TOS, though.
On the subject of Voyager: the series may have had inconsistent writing and many unbelievably bad episodes (I'm looking at you, "Threshold" Head on wall), but it had its moments ("Year of Hell," "Scorpion," and "Someone to Watch Over Me" are some of my favorite episodes of ANY Trek series). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 15:20
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I watched Star Trek: The Original Movie on Wednesday night, and I am pretty certain that it was the first time that I have seen it.  I don't know how I had never seen it before.  It wasn't very good.  I actually really liked Enterprise, but it was the first Star Trek series where I watched every episode from the first to last in order while it was being shown.
 
I have seen many episodes of The Original Series and The Next Generation and prefer The Next Generation.  I bought the entire TNG series on DVD and I am currently working my way through the episodes in order.  Currently I am in the beginning of the 4th season.  So far I have seen most of these episodes in rerun form over time, but there have been a couple that I don't remember at all.


Not surprised to see that we differ so much as we also have dissimilar tastes in music.  I much prefer the orignal series -- I prefer the stories (fave episodes are the pilot and Assignment Earth with Gary 7).  That movie is my favourite Star Trek film, and I believe it's very good (at least it's very good for me).  I saw it in the movie theatre as a kid and liked it then, and I still like it.  I used to belong to SF forums and argue with people about the merits of the film while recognising that if one likes is really a  matter of taste.  Some find it too slow, but I love films such as Stalker, Solaris and 2001 that some call too slow.  I find it evoked a sense of wonder in me.  I prefer it to the generally better regarded Wrath of Khan, but then that's more of an action movie, whereas I see Star Trek: The Motion Picture as more of a romantic film, and I don't just mean the Ilai/ Decker story arc which I did like, but meaning, to paraphrase a bit the OED, "imaginative, visionary, suggestive of an idealised, sentimental, or fantastic view of reality; preferring picturesqueness to finish; concerned more with feeling than form".  Movies such as Star Wars have not stood the test of time for me well, and I seem to remember you liking those.

Anyway shows such as the orignal Star trek, The Twilight Zone, The Prisoner (personal fave), Doctor Who, Land of the Lost, Outer Limits, and the Tomorrow People were very important to me as a young child and will always have nostalgia value.  I like TNG when it came out, but now it bores me.

Incidentally, I do think it a shame that the Asignment Earth series never happened.  Gary 7 rocks.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 15:45
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I watched Star Trek: The Original Movie on Wednesday night, and I am pretty certain that it was the first time that I have seen it.  I don't know how I had never seen it before.  It wasn't very good.  I actually really liked Enterprise, but it was the first Star Trek series where I watched every episode from the first to last in order while it was being shown.
 
I have seen many episodes of The Original Series and The Next Generation and prefer The Next Generation.  I bought the entire TNG series on DVD and I am currently working my way through the episodes in order.  Currently I am in the beginning of the 4th season.  So far I have seen most of these episodes in rerun form over time, but there have been a couple that I don't remember at all.


Not surprised to see that we differ so much as we also have dissimilar tastes in music.  I much prefer the orignal series -- I prefer the stories (fave episodes are the pilot and Assignment Earth with Gary 7).  That movie is my favourite Star Trek film, and I believe it's very good (at least it's very good for me).  I saw it in the movie theatre as a kid and liked it then, and I still like it.  I used to belong to SF forums and argue with people about the merits of the film while recognising that if one likes is really a  matter of taste.  Some find it too slow, but I love films such as Stalker, Solaris and 2001 that some call too slow.  I find it evoked a sense of wonder in me.  I prefer it to the generally better regarded Wrath of Khan, but then that's more of an action movie, wehereas I see Star Trek: The Motion Picture as more of a romantic film, and I don't just mean the Ilai/ Decker story arc which I did like, but meaning, to paraphrase a bit the OED, "imaginative, visionary, suggestive of an idealised, sentimental, or fantastic view of reality; preferring picturesqueness to finish; concerned more with feeling than form".  Movies such as Star Wars have not stood the test of time for me well, and I seem to remember you liking those.

Anyway shows such as the orignal Star trek, Doctor Who, Land of the Lost, and the Tomorrow People were very important to me as a young child and will always have nostalgia value.  I like TNG when it came out, but now it bores me.

Incidentally, I do think it a shame that the Asignment Earth series never happened.  Gary 7 rocks.

Ah, what could have been:


I am not surprised our tastes differ here either.  Probably the lack of action was what cost it for me.  I fell asleep during it twice, and had to rewind back to watch what I missed. LOL  I probably lost something there.  I've not watched The Original Series in many, many years, but I just remember not really liking it very much.  I don't know if it was the characters that I didn't like, or the dated feel of it all.  Not a fault of the show as much as a fault of when I watched it I guess, but the whole set in the future but with a 60's psychedelic feel thing never really worked for me.
 
I'm not familiar with Gary 7, of The Tomorrow People, and have never watched Doctor Who or Land of the Lost.  I think that I would have really liked Doctor Who, but it wasn't a US show and I had never even heard of it until I got BBC America on my cable network.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 16:10
 I am a big fan of the original series, and grew up with it-it made an incredible impression upon me initially as a young child, and for that matter, still makes an incredible impression
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 16:16
Love the Trek!! I started on TNG when I was little and they were still making episodes.  I can remember the hype surrounding the series finale.  They had an event at the Skydome for it.  I think I've got that on tape somewhere.  

I'd also watch the original series, but it wasn't as interesting as TNG when I was younger.  Now I have a hard time choosing a favorite.  I also watched DS9, but never have seen much Voyager or Enterprise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 16:29
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I watched Star Trek: The Original Movie on Wednesday night, and I am pretty certain that it was the first time that I have seen it.  I don't know how I had never seen it before.  It wasn't very good.  I actually really liked Enterprise, but it was the first Star Trek series where I watched every episode from the first to last in order while it was being shown.
 
I have seen many episodes of The Original Series and The Next Generation and prefer The Next Generation.  I bought the entire TNG series on DVD and I am currently working my way through the episodes in order.  Currently I am in the beginning of the 4th season.  So far I have seen most of these episodes in rerun form over time, but there have been a couple that I don't remember at all.


Not surprised to see that we differ so much as we also have dissimilar tastes in music.  I much prefer the orignal series -- I prefer the stories (fave episodes are the pilot and Assignment Earth with Gary 7).  That movie is my favourite Star Trek film, and I believe it's very good (at least it's very good for me).  I saw it in the movie theatre as a kid and liked it then, and I still like it.  I used to belong to SF forums and argue with people about the merits of the film while recognising that if one likes is really a  matter of taste.  Some find it too slow, but I love films such as Stalker, Solaris and 2001 that some call too slow.  I find it evoked a sense of wonder in me.  I prefer it to the generally better regarded Wrath of Khan, but then that's more of an action movie, wehereas I see Star Trek: The Motion Picture as more of a romantic film, and I don't just mean the Ilai/ Decker story arc which I did like, but meaning, to paraphrase a bit the OED, "imaginative, visionary, suggestive of an idealised, sentimental, or fantastic view of reality; preferring picturesqueness to finish; concerned more with feeling than form".  Movies such as Star Wars have not stood the test of time for me well, and I seem to remember you liking those.

Anyway shows such as the orignal Star trek, Doctor Who, Land of the Lost, and the Tomorrow People were very important to me as a young child and will always have nostalgia value.  I like TNG when it came out, but now it bores me.

Incidentally, I do think it a shame that the Asignment Earth series never happened.  Gary 7 rocks.

Ah, what could have been:


I am not surprised our tastes differ here either.  Probably the lack of action was what cost it for me.  I fell asleep during it twice, and had to rewind back to watch what I missed. LOL  I probably lost something there.  I've not watched The Original Series in many, many years, but I just remember not really liking it very much.  I don't know if it was the characters that I didn't like, or the dated feel of it all.  Not a fault of the show as much as a fault of when I watched it I guess, but the whole set in the future but with a 60's psychedelic feel thing never really worked for me.
 
I'm not familiar with Gary 7, of The Tomorrow People, and have never watched Doctor Who or Land of the Lost.  I think that I would have really liked Doctor Who, but it wasn't a US show and I had never even heard of it until I got BBC America on my cable network.


Assignment: Earth was an episode of Star Trek (TOS) with the main character being Gary 7.  It's an oddity.  It was a  way of introducing a new show/ characters through Star trek (a sort of spin off), but the series never happened.  That vid is fanmade featuring scenes from the Star Trek episode. Doctor Who is great fun.  I do like the -- early 70's -- Pertwee era best (nostalgia since I started with those, albeit in re-runs when i was a kid), followed by Tom Baker, but I enjoy the new Doctors too. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 18:07
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I grew up with the original series, so that will always have a special place. Next generation had a terrible first season, and then improved to become an utter classic. DS9 was very dark, but contained some very intelligent sci-fi. Voyager was mostly awful, even allowing for Jeri Ryan's knockers, and Enterprise was just shockingly awful.

I liked the latest film a great deal BTW. 

I wouldn't say the first season of TNG was terrible though it most certainly had a lot of cheesy episodes like the planet of the blonde white people and the planet where men's and women's traditional gender roles were reversed.  The first episode was particularly annoying, I pretty much never liked the Q character.  The best thing he ever did was bring on the Borg.  I did finally quit making it a point to catch the new episodes when they came out towards the end.  DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise lost my attention after a while, too.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 18:25
Next Generation is my favorite.
Though the crew of the original is timeless. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 20:00
original series of course, though I must say it was fairly awful at least a quarter of the time and was not as consistent as Twilight Zone or even the first season of Lost in Space, but the good ones were great television and sci-fi has never been quite as intelligent on TV since.  I do think Roddenberry was his own worst enemy and tended to push for content that was so cerebral it lost the action and fun - like 'The Omega Glory' and his other yawn-inducing scripts - which is very important in something like Trek (this is probably why he was cut out of Wrath of Khan).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2011 at 20:11
The original series followed closely by TNG and I like all the movies.
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