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progistoomainstream 
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:03 |
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Why is Meat Loaf not in the Prog Archives. Shouldn`t he be in Prog-related. Bat out of Hell was a pretty prog track so was Paradise and I would do anything for love. Forum, What do you think
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:08 |
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I think the Loaf has been discussed.. off and on, from time to time, here and there
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:16 |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:23 |
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I think overdramatic and theatrical rock is more like it. I actually like Bat out of Hell, but I hear no prog rock tendencies on that record.
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Padraic
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:30 |
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What do I think? I think yellow text on a white background is the scourge of humanity.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:56 |
I could care less. Bat out of Hell is one of my favorite records. It's almost a damned concept album, really. It's got ten minute long songs and all sorts of spoken word weirdness, but it's primarily wagnerian superpomp theater pop with lots of cool rock and operatic elements tossed in - nods to 1950's dowop and shake yer leg woohoo!
Love it to death, but he's not going to be added anytime soon. Hey, we've still got Tom Waits and Stevie Wonder to contend with! ARGH! Songs in the Key of Life is one of the most progressive albums I can think of, and it'll never be added. Oh well.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 17:57 |
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well Stevie isn't rock, as much as I love him
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 18:32 |
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Don't let your meat loaf.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 19:45 |
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I love Meat Loaf, I've got six of his albums, yet I'd never expect to see him here.
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 19:47 |
 Padraic wrote:
What do I think? I think yellow text on a white background is the scourge of humanity.
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Oh come now. Surely you've written your name in the snow before. 
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 10 2011 at 19:57 |
progistoomainstream wrote:
Why is Meat Loaf not in the Prog Archives. Shouldn`t he be in Prog-related. Bat out of Hell was a pretty prog track so was Paradise and I would do anything for love. Forum, What do you think |
In probably the N° 1 fan of the Meat, but still believe he shouldn't be here.
He has been suggested several times, but always rejected.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 10 2011 at 19:58
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 02:47 |
Personally I've always felt he is a glaring omission from the site. His albums contain much more genuine prog than a lot of the artists who have been added. I think there is an element of snobbery among prog fans when it comes to Meatloaf (wasn't his name originally one word?).
As has been said though, he has been discussed in this forum many times before.
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yam yam
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 04:53 |
He'll probably be discussed on here many times still to come too, if he doesn't get added! "Bat Out Of Hell" was produced by Todd Rundgren (even though he apparently found the material "hilarious"), and three members of his band Utopia contributed during the recording of it, as well as Todd himself on guitar. Todd Rundgren is here in crossover, so maybe the "Meat" could be hung somewhere in prog related (so that the flavour could improve over time!) - and everybody would be happy! 
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 05:46 |
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I'd say no.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 05:55 |
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OK, but only if we put him in Indo-Prog.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 06:06 |
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"...Mr. Loaf, or may I call you Meat?" as Dame Edna said.
I don't expect him to be added.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 10:14 |
Meatloaf is a great singer, Jim Steinman's piano sections and elaborate arrangements are fantastic, but they play some sort of Wagnerian Rock (As they coined their style), but it'ss plain Rock with a fancy name, more elaborate than usual but not Prog (of course IMHO).
I have all his albums, love Bat Out of Hell 1 and 2, but I don't see him here, no matter my personal taste.
Iván
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Padraic
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 10:25 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Personally I've always felt he is a glaring omission from the site. His albums contain much more genuine prog than a lot of the artists who have been added. |
That's quite a statement. Would you care to expound on this? Or define "genuine" prog?
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The T
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 10:37 |
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London Broil is another horrible omission from the archives...
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lazland
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Posted: October 11 2011 at 11:40 |
Alitare wrote:
. Bat out of Hell is one of my favorite records. It's almost a damned concept album, really. It's got ten minute long songs and all sorts of spoken word weirdness, but it's primarily wagnerian superpomp theater pop with lots of cool rock and operatic elements tossed in - nods to 1950's dowop and shake yer leg woohoo!
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I always thought the concept behind the album was long haired pie muncher wishes to shag lady with large boobs 
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