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Saperlipopette!
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Topic: Jazz Rock-Fusion not in PA Posted: November 02 2011 at 09:15 |
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What a lineup! Love Mouzon's playing on everything I've heard. His percussion is all over the place in a good way on Jeremy Steigs Temple of Birth. Flute 'n' drums a underrated combo outside of marches: |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 01 2011 at 11:35 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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awaken77
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Posted: November 01 2011 at 08:22 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
there is excellent jazz-fusion band Matalex, I asked it for candidates to PA, but they was refused as "not progressive enough" (strange, when Bjork considered a prog lol: )
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presdoug
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 10:54 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
i simply love Jasper's album with Philip Catherine and Charlie Mariano from '78 called Sleep My Love, and also van't Hof's live album from around '78 Live at Montreux
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 04:02 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I thought of Freddie Hubbard, but relistened only to Red Clay and Straight Life. And as I remembered, both of them are just very good jazz containing some el piano. I should have tried your suggestion, which really is fusion. It was just a very long time since I've listened to any of his albums. The titletrack is stunning. Freddie's got a lovely sound: |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 03:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'll comment on Jasper, but first Joachim Kuhn. Brutal fusion with funky fuzzorgan, hyperactive drumming, frenetic guitar and cinematic strings. Should appeal to Mahavishnu-fans (I prefer Kuhn). Now Mr Van't Hof. The wiki article doesn't even mention my two favorite albums: Association - Earwax, (1970 with: Toto Blanke, Pierre Courbois, Siggi Busch and Peter Krijnen) and Selfkicker from 1976, another one featuring Toto Blanke. He might be my favorite fusion guitarist. Lots of feel. Earwax is hardrocking fusion, while Jasper's soloalbum is more melodic, not as busy and even features a couple of beautiful, impressionistic solo piano pieces. There's nothing by either of these albums on youtube, but if you like this, I think you'll love both: |
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Logan
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 17:55 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No, it is nice, but pretty forgettable -- if I'm in the mood, I may play it now and then.. I just mentioned it I think it cause I was thinking about Bob James and Bobby Hutcherson which led me to think about another first B name, Buster Keaton, which made me think of Buster Williams (sounds silly, but my mind tends to associate that way). I prefer Polarization and Sunburst to Pinnacle. Incidentally, my first Priester and Henderson albums respectively were Polarization and Sunburst. Of the two, I return to Polarization more which I don't love, love like Love, Love or Realization, and I put Inside Out over Sunburst. Oh, one album that i think good that could add to the list (not suggesting you add it to the list) is Freddie Hubbard's First Light, but it's also not an album I tend to return to. By the way, the Solar Plexus album was a terrific addition to your list, which I have voted for to go along with the others I voted for. |
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Slartibartfast
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OK went back to the last page, I'm talking Japer van't Hoff. That Dave Pike sounds pretty good. I also don't have that Joachim Kuhn, but Sunshower and Springfever are great. Edited by Slartibartfast - October 27 2011 at 17:43 |
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darkshade
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 17:20 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm not familiar with any of these albums, except the Donald Byrd album; though I do know a lot of these artists.
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lucas
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 16:31 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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yes, Dave Pike set is rather fusion. I adore 'gentle noise, noisy silence', a true delight if you like vibraphone, and a cover of a Zappa song.
German label MPS released a lot of forgotten jazz-fusion forgotten gems, among which Peter Herbolzheimer's Rhythm combination & brasss's 'scenes' and New Dave Pike Set's 'Salomao' which has a latine vibe. Dave Pike set's 'gentle noise...' was also reissued on this german label, specializing in groove jazz.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 08:30 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I didn't quite understand this post. Are we talking about Dave Pike? If so, Dave Pike Set is his fusion band, and differs quite a lot from most of his solo stuff. |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 04:59 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bob James opening track is a masterpiece. I'll see if I can squeeze him in as well. "Other" is an essential part of the poll.: I remember Pinnacle as a nice album, but not nearly as engaging as the rest of the Mwandishi-related treasures. Filed and forgotten along with Eddie Henderson Sunburst and Julian Priester Polarization if you know what I mean. I know you're not saying anything about quality, but do you consider it to be much better than I remember it? I've got it digitally, should I give it another go? |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 04:32 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
None of these are in PA . Vote for a favorite if you got one, but I made the to guide anyone interested to albums that have a similar approach to jazz as the ones in the Jazz Rock-Fusion section here. Because there were made thousands of them all over the world in the 70's. So I a made poll out of 24 of the ones I like. As I wrote in the opening post, to my knowledge only two (now three) of these has a career with more than one or two fusion albums. I might take the time and suggest them for addition later, but its not what this poll is about. Actually the poll is just used to write a bunch of names and albums for people to check out. Its easier to relate to than a long list in a post. Btw... I edited out Milt Jackson's Sunflower and included Solar Plexus Voices instead. After relistening to the former, I don't think is a kind of fusion with a relation to progressive rock. Lovely album, though. The latter is a mix between early Return to Forever and Magma at its most uplifting. All their albums are similar to RTF. Have a listen to this: |
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presdoug
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 21:25 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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presdoug
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 21:22 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 20:22 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes we have no these artists/albums are here not in PA today.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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darkshade
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 19:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So....... Are we voting for albums we feel should be booted out of PA? or albums that we like/feel should remain in PA?
**EDIT** These albums/artists are not in PA, yes? Edited by darkshade - October 26 2011 at 19:39 |
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Slartibartfast
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It appears to be out of print, but I used to have a live tape of one of his shows where there was there was a heavy synth presence and I have no idea what album was out in conjunction with that tour. I've picked up a couple of albums of his so far, but they're just basic modern jazz.
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Stone Flute! Viva Wounded Bird!
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 26 2011 at 16:52 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think they could both be right up your alley. Btw: Dave Pike Set released five studioalbums while the american vibraphonist lived in Europe in the late 60's early 70's. Infra Red, Four Reasons, Noisy Silence - Gentle Noise, Album 1971 are all highly reccomended. Released on MPS with a killer lineup: Dave Pike: Vibraphone Volker Kriegel: Guitar, Sitar Hans Rettenbacher: Bass, Cello Peter Baumeister: Drums, Percussion |
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