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^ I think Mayer is right.

Jane Getter has three solo albums (not on PA)

and three releases (one is forthcoming) under the name "Jane Getter Premonition" (on PA)

So the PA artist page should be changed to reflect that, and/or the biography updated with this information...
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Mayer, I think it's because artist name on PA is JANE GETTER and her page includes both her solo albums and albums of Jane Getter Premonition (a band or a project).

In my opinion correct titles would be:
On (as Jane Getter Premonition)
On Tour (as Jane Getter Premonition)
Anomalia

or
Jane Getter Premonition - On
Jane Getter Premonition - On Tour
Anomalia

What do you prefer?

Eugene, there is NOTHING on the PA page that has her solo albums (If she does) and on all three albums it says "Jane Getter Premonition" so IMHO the bands name should be changed to "Jane Getter Premonition" from "Jane Getter" and 
In my opinion correct titles would be:
On
On Tour
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^ Mayer, I think it's because artist name on PA is JANE GETTER and her page includes both her solo albums and albums of Jane Getter Premonition (a band or a project).

In my opinion correct titles would be:
On (as Jane Getter Premonition)
On Tour (as Jane Getter Premonition)
Anomalia

or
Jane Getter Premonition - On
Jane Getter Premonition - On Tour
Anomalia

What do you prefer?
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9847

The name from the begging was "Jane Getter Premonition" That what it says on the 2015 1st album and on the 2017 EP and on the album I added today, so why on the 1st album it says (as Jane Getter Premonition) when it should have been the band's name anyway
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^ Thanks, Julien. Hope you'll be lucky.
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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Per Kohler Per Kohler wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4650

Hi guys!

Just politely want to ask why this outfit is placed under 'Neo-prog'???
It ought to be 'Symphonic prog' instead. Just like The Flower Kings and Unifaun.

Mmmm... you may be right, but we should contact both genre teams, because I cannot make this change. And I'm not 100% sure about it either.

Can you help, Eugene?

By the way, I really LOVE these three bands! Smile
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ I'd leave it to the initiator. I'm not familiar with the band and don't have arguments to prove that Agents Of Mercy have to be moved to a different genre. 

Looking at the original suggestion thread for these guys in the 'Suggest New Bands and Artists' part of the forum from 5th May 2009 (more than two months after the debut album's release, and after at least two email submissions for their inclusion had been overlooked), this eventually became a very rushed addition to the site - eventually happening more than four months after the album's release. All the people who replied in the thread thought this band belonged in Symphonic Prog, but it seems there had been an issue with the availability of samples for the Symphonic team to listen to. The Neo Prog team in those days was a slick two-man outfit, led by one of the most prolific workhorses of the site at that time, Olav Martin Bjørnsen (aka Windhawk). He will have had access to samples for sure, and looking at what he wrote in the suggestion thread on 12th July 2009, his team were probably told to just get Agents of Mercy onto the site (in Neo Prog) ASAP, since the issue had been dragging on far too long.

Agents of Mercy belong in Symphonic Prog for me too, though on the latest album they do occasionally play some music that is not that far removed from the harder-edged Neo Prog that Arena tend to specialise in, so they're not entirely out of place where they are, I suppose.

Might be worth referring this query to the two genre teams for their respective opinions as Julien suggests, and then let them sort it out. Embarrassed

NAP: I'm keep on thinking that it's the task for fans if they are ready to "fight". Members of both genre teams changed, moving the band from Neo to Symph takes almost the same time and effort as adding a new band. 
Don't expect that if we inform teams they definitely say "Yes, sir". More likely they'd like to have convincing arguments to agree with the genre change. It's a long song, I'm not a singer in this case. Smile   

Genre teams contacted... Now let's wait.
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^ Good enough for the first attempt, but I'd recommend to find the complete info BEFORE adding albums.
Line-ups and releases info missing in all 3 albums. 
Please post missing info here, we'll edit pages.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm sorry to trouble you again, but I noticed there's three other Duncan Mackay albums missing from his discography too.....
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Mackay_(musician)
Can you please add them by yourself?

Just follow this link.
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Gentlemen, please no killing innocent and not-so-innocent victims now.

Keishiro says he needs to check the Progressive Line case deeper before the blood pours.
Lol! I'm yet to find a single word anywhere on the Internet to suggest that Progressive Line is anything other than a bootleg label. That said, Proggnosis also include all three of the 'two-for-one' Progressive Line albums that we have here, even though they don't actually mention the releases info for the Pirana entry.

This is hardly a big issue then, I guess. Just fourteen albums out of quite a few thousand have the dreaded words 'Progressive Line' written in the releases info section, so letting Keishiro take time to delve deeper certainly won't do any harm.

I'll just close my contribution to this case with reference to the strawbsweb.co.uk page about Progressive Line bootlegs:

"Progressive Line have now released three hard to find Strawbs albums on CD (and Witchwood). Whilst the releases have impressive looking Australian addresses, they do not appear to exist, and no-one has been able to track down the company which made them; the releases have not been sanctioned by the band or Universal. Particularly following their latest venture, a re-issue of Prince And Princess, it seems almost certain that these are not legitimate releases."

A full analysis of the Progressive Line bootleg CD of the Strawbs self-titled debut album can be read here. You can certainly see the difference in the amount of information this (and the Russian bootleg immediately below it on the page) have printed on the CD inlay and on the disc itself compared to the official CD releases.

Guilty, your honour! LOL

NAP: David, anyway if Admin tells us he needs some time to make a decision, all we can do is wait.


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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Per Kohler Per Kohler wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4650

Hi guys!

Just politely want to ask why this outfit is placed under 'Neo-prog'???
It ought to be 'Symphonic prog' instead. Just like The Flower Kings and Unifaun.

Mmmm... you may be right, but we should contact both genre teams, because I cannot make this change. And I'm not 100% sure about it either.

Can you help, Eugene?

By the way, I really LOVE these three bands! Smile
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ I'd leave it to the initiator. I'm not familiar with the band and don't have arguments to prove that Agents Of Mercy have to be moved to a different genre. 

Looking at the original suggestion thread for these guys in the 'Suggest New Bands and Artists' part of the forum from 5th May 2009 (more than two months after the debut album's release, and after at least two email submissions for their inclusion had been overlooked), this eventually became a very rushed addition to the site - eventually happening more than four months after the album's release. All the people who replied in the thread thought this band belonged in Symphonic Prog, but it seems there had been an issue with the availability of samples for the Symphonic team to listen to. The Neo Prog team in those days was a slick two-man outfit, led by one of the most prolific workhorses of the site at that time, Olav Martin Bjørnsen (aka Windhawk). He will have had access to samples for sure, and looking at what he wrote in the suggestion thread on 12th July 2009, his team were probably told to just get Agents of Mercy onto the site (in Neo Prog) ASAP, since the issue had been dragging on far too long.

Agents of Mercy belong in Symphonic Prog for me too, though on the latest album they do occasionally play some music that is not that far removed from the harder-edged Neo Prog that Arena tend to specialise in, so they're not entirely out of place where they are, I suppose.

Might be worth referring this query to the two genre teams for their respective opinions as Julien suggests, and then let them sort it out. Embarrassed

NAP: I'm keep on thinking that it's the task for fans if they are ready to "fight". Members of both genre teams changed, moving the band from Neo to Symph takes almost the same time and effort as adding a new band. 
Don't expect that if we inform teams they definitely say "Yes, sir". More likely they'd like to have convincing arguments to agree with the genre change. It's a long song, I'm not a singer in this case. Smile   


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^ Thanks, but I think both "Keys" belong to Live albums.

In my opinion "Keystudio" album (consisting of studio tracks from "Keys") suits better to Studio albums, but I can live with the fact that it was placed in Compilations. 
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Recently, I've been questioning the idea on why both the Yes - Keys to Ascension albums are not under the studio category. For example, Pink Floyd's Ummagumma is listed under studio even though it contains half live tracks that are from their previous releases. I believe that Keys to Ascension 1 and 2 should be both studio albums.
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm sorry to trouble you again, but I noticed there's three other Duncan Mackay albums missing from his discography too.....
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Mackay_(musician)
Can you please add them by yourself?

Just follow this link.
As far as I'm aware, I'm not authorised to add artists and albums to the PA database. Confused

You can’t add artists, but you can add missing releases for artists already in PA. I wasn’t aware of that either, until I pointed out some missing albums, and was asked to add them myself. Any forum member can add releases. So now you’re aware, you can do it! 🤗

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^ I'd leave it to the initiator. I'm not familiar with the band and don't have arguments to prove that Agents Of Mercy have to be moved to a different genre. 
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Originally posted by Per Kohler Per Kohler wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4650

Hi guys!

Just politely want to ask why this outfit is placed under 'Neo-prog'???
It ought to be 'Symphonic prog' instead. Just like The Flower Kings and Unifaun.

Mmmm... you may be right, but we should contact both genre teams, because I cannot make this change. And I'm not 100% sure about it either.

Can you help, Eugene?

By the way, I really LOVE these three bands! Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm sorry to trouble you again, but I noticed there's three other Duncan Mackay albums missing from his discography too.....
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Mackay_(musician)
Can you please add them by yourself?

Just follow this link.
As far as I'm aware, I'm not authorised to add artists and albums to the PA database. Confused

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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4650

Hi guys!

Just politely want to ask why this outfit is placed under 'Neo-prog'???
It ought to be 'Symphonic prog' instead. Just like The Flower Kings and Unifaun.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm sorry to trouble you again, but I noticed there's three other Duncan Mackay albums missing from his discography too.....
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Mackay_(musician)
Can you please add them by yourself?

Just follow this link.
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^ Gentlemen, please no killing innocent and not-so-innocent victims now.

Keishiro says he needs to check the Progressive Line case deeper before the blood pours.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Yes, let's wait for Eugene's opinion.

And now we've got 3 "two originals" entries:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10727
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=28616
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45441

Should we kill them? Each has 1 review...


I found the first two of those earlier on, and the third one is the Abacus two-for-one album which has already been condemned. I also found this one earlier http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7136, which was officially released as a two-for-one album by Drop Out Records in 1995 and unofficially by Progressive Line in 2006. The release as a two-for-one is therefore perfectly valid to include on the site, but it appears in your list of fourteen for possible removal of the Progressive Line bootleg from the releases info section. Drop Out Records is written as Drop Out Records (2) on our page for the album, but this seems to have been copied directly from discogs, where they use the number in brackets to identify different record companies with the same name. This particular Drop Out Records is an offshoot of Demon Records (now known as Demon Music Group) which specialises in psychedelic rock re-issues.

If the Abacus two-for-one album is already condemned, then I think the other two you mention here will have to suffer a similar fate.
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