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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71107

- János Kóbor / Vocals
- Laszlo Benko / Keyboards
- György Molnár / Guitars
- Tamás Szekeres / Guitars
- Katy Zee / Bass
- Ferenc Debreczeni / Drums

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Format: CD, Digital
November 26, 2020

Thanks, Mayer. I have this CD, but musicians are not credited on CD.
I think you gave right line-up. Clap

It seems some songs were recorded with an orchestra (or simulated orchestra sounds, I don't know) and probably some guest musicians. Please let us know if you'll find some info. It's also of my personal intesrest, because Omega is one of my favourite bands.
According to Wikipedia, Tamás Szekeres and Katy Zee (Kata Szöllösy) are two of the band's touring musicians, but both the New Prog Releases page for the album and Baby Blue Prog Reviews agree with Mayer's album line-up, with Baby Blue stating in their review of the album: "the digipack from GrundRecords from Hungary that I have at hand is not easy to see who recorded all of this music. The line-up information given above comes from the worldwide network, but is probably not complete".

The following additional information is on both the Discogs page for the release and the GrundRecords upload of the full album on YouTube.

Recorded between 2016 and 2020 at Omega Stúdió under the direction of Kóbor János.
Music and lyrics: Omega, Sülyi Péter and Trunkos András.
Arranger, music director and sound engineer: Kóbor János.
Contributions by: Molnár Gábor, Vámos Zsolt and Nyiregyhazi Cantemus Kórus (Cantemus Choral Institute, or Choir), led by Turcsány András.
Graphic design: Szabadi Gergely and Száraz Bence.
Producer: Kóbor János and Trunkos András.
Published and distributed by GrundRecords in 2020 under licence of Mega Multimedia Kft.

Packaged in a gatefold digipak with die-cut inner pocket, clear tray and 16-page booklet with lyrics and credits.

Edit: Those additional credits from Discogs/GrundRecords above give the names as they are written in Hungarian. In English the first and last names are usually reversed.

According to Wikipedia Hungary's page for the album, with reference to this interview with Kóbor János (or János Kóbor as it is written in English) on mandiner.hu, former band member Tamás Mihály also played bass during the recording of Testamentum before he died in November last year. Vámos Zsolt, mentioned as a contributor in the additional credits above, is a guitarist-composer. You can read what he says about his contribution to Testamentum here.


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Originally posted by NAP NAP wrote:

Thanks, guys, marked them in our list on page 314. Except 37565 - seems it's something new, not from our list. Right?

Yes, it was a "special request" from David. Wink
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71107

- János Kóbor / Vocals
- Laszlo Benko / Keyboards
- György Molnár / Guitars
- Tamás Szekeres / Guitars
- Katy Zee / Bass
- Ferenc Debreczeni / Drums

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Thanks, Mayer. I have this CD, but musicians are not credited on CD.
I think you gave right line-up. Clap

It seems some songs were recorded with an orchestra (or simulated orchestra sounds, I don't know) and probably some guest musicians. Please let us know if you'll find some info. It's also of my personal intesrest, because Omega is one of my favourite bands.
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^ I hope so too. 
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Obviously, you're right! Wink

About the Sajjanu official website link, we'll have to wait the return of the almighty Eugene, as I don't have the power to change this...
Cool. I didn't realise this. I reckon it won't be too long before you do have the necessary power to attend to such matters though. Smile
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^ Obviously, you're right! Wink

About the Sajjanu official website link, we'll have to wait the return of the almighty Eugene, as I don't have the power to change this...

NAP: Not that almighty, but thanks, the link changed. Smile 


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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Thanks a lot, David. Your work amazes me! Clap

So I've updated:

I must say that, like Eugene, my "real" work is very demanding at the moment. I will be more relaxed in a few weeks (beginning of March).

Take care everybody! Smile

I'll leave you and Eugene in peace for a few days now that we've finished the 'missing track list' assignment lol!

I just thought I'd mention the Sajjanu official website link again though. The current one we have is dead. Latest working one is at https://sajjanupechiku.wixsite.com/sajjanu
YOUR work amazes ME too. Without your brilliant new tool and Eugene's incredible dedication to his task, none of what we've jointly achieved over the past couple of weeks would have been possible. Approve Clap
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^ Thanks Mayer, done!
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71107

- János Kóbor / Vocals
- Laszlo Benko / Keyboards
- György Molnár / Guitars
- Tamás Szekeres / Guitars
- Katy Zee / Bass
- Ferenc Debreczeni / Drums

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Format: CD, Digital
November 26, 2020
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Thanks a lot, David. Your work amazes me! Clap

So I've updated:

I must say that, like Eugene, my "real" work is very demanding at the moment. I will be more relaxed in a few weeks (beginning of March).

Take care everybody! Smile

NAP: Thanks, guys, marked them in our list on page 314. Except 37565 - seems it's something new, not from our list. Right?


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Guys, I have to make a several days break because of my "real" work. Please post info when it's ready, then (I hope pretty soon) we'll sort it out. 
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Just one left, and by 'Sod's Law' it looks like the final hurdle is going to be too big to get over! Cry


I can't find any info at all for this rather obscure Japanese outfit's third (and it seems final) album. Unhappy

Keishiro added them to the site, and reviewed their debut album. He also posted a piece about them in his Japanese Progressive Rock presented by DamoX thread back in 2010, not long before this third album was released, so maybe he can help us with this one?

59 albums to begin with, & 58 of them now sorted, or being sorted. We surely can't fail on the very last one...Can we? Ermm

Edit: No we jolly well can't! Look what I just found! https://diskunion.net/jp/ct/detail/IND6918Big smile

I've no idea how to format this, since the four tracks don't have any titles, but according to a review on Amazon Japan, all four tracks have a similar length and structure.

CD-1 (50:52)
1. Untitled
2. Untitled

CD-2 (58:35)
1. Untitled
2. Untitled

Total Time 109:27

- Kazuhiko Kuriyama / bass
- Koji Mizutani / drums
- Yasuhiro Okazaki / guitar

Mastered by Makoto Kubota
Jacket by contemporary artist Keita Egami

2 x CD My Best Record - MYRD-20/21 (Japan, 2011)

Released on April 27, 2011

Image of fully packaged CD, with reference number visible at the bottom here.

And there we are. Our mission is accomplished! All 59 albums without track listings duly dealt with! Tongue Clap

Edit #2: I even found a sample of what this album sounds like on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrkL4BEn2M.

Not my cup of tea really lol! Embarrassed

NAP: Thanks, done by Julien.


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Troy Donockley ‎– Messages - A Collection Of Music 1998-2011


Not a lot of detailed info available for this one.

I managed to find the timings, and a list of all the musicians etc involved, but the full details of which individual tracks they feature on (apart from a few of the female vocalists) weren't forthcoming. It will probably require somebody who actually has the physical CD and liner notes to supply that info, I fear. It's only a compilation album though, so hopefully the details below will suffice. Embarrassed

1. Sights (3:12) 
2. For Him Who Will Never Return (3:37) 
3. Now, Voyager (9:08) 
4. Fragment (4:28) 
5. Orkahaugr (11:13) 
6. Finlandia (3:40) 
7. Dunmail Rising (6:23) 
8. Pursuit Of Illusion (8:43) 
9. Tunnels (9:58) 
10. The Procession (3:09) 

Total time 63:31

- Troy Donockley / Uilleann pipes, low & high whistles, acoustic & electric guitars, bouzouki, keyboards, harmonium, Portuguese mandola, percussion, vocals, composer, arranger, producer

With:
- Tim Harries / bass
- Neil Drinkwater / grand piano
- Nick Beggs / Chapman stick
- Duncan Rayson / organ
- Rosie Biss / cello
- Terl Bryant / cymbals, gong, bodhran, bells, various drums
- Nollaig Casey / fiddle
- Julie Darling / harp
- Peter Knight / violins
- Chris Redgate / oboe
- Brad Lang / double bass, fretless bass
- Frank Van Essen / violins, viola, drums, percussion
- Andy Duncan / djembe, darabuka, vocals
- Heather Findlay / vocals
- Barbara Dickson / vocals (2)
- Joanne Hogg / vocals (4, 8)
- Nick Holland / vocals
- Olivia Sparnenn / vocals (7)
- The Emperor String Quartet:
   - Clare Hayes / violin
   - Martin Burgess / violin
   - Fiona Bonds / viola
   - William Schofield / cello
- York Cantores Choir / chorus vocals
- Tuomas Holopainen / poem recitation (3)

CD Lanternmusic ‎– LNTNCD4 (UK, 2012)

Duncan Rayson's organ contribution was recorded on location at Rochdale Town Hall.

Note: Discogs has track three listed as 'Voyager Now', but the title is definitely 'Now, Voyager', as can be seen in the image on this eBay listing.

NAP: Thanks, done by Julien.


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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Oh, I didn't even know about this thread... Embarrassed

Should I re-post my top (or "worst") biographies over there?
I'd definitely post the list of the worst ones there. You never know, a bored collaborator with nothing to do might visit that thread one day and pick out a couple to research for us! It'll be easier for us to find there too when we need to refer to it in the future - that thread is far less busy than this one is. Your post will soon get 'lost' in this thread, as so many other correction jobs that need doing get almost constantly posted here. Thumbs Up
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And so we have just three albums left to find track list details for. Smile This next one was a real tough job to find the info for - and I'm not even sure it should be on the site in the first place, but here we go anyway:


This is just a three-track CD, with one of them performed by Sajjanu and two by Kuruucrew (and one of those is only a Buzzcocks cover). If it belongs here at all in Sajjanu's discography, it should be in the Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo section rather than albums.  Kuruucrew's saxophonist sometimes adds a touch of brass to Sajjanu's sound, which is what led to the split being released.

Sources of info:
https://vk.com/wall-125014667_671 (the only source I found for the track times)

1. (Sajjanu) 言葉を用いて奏でるものは才能に有らず、ただの記憶に過ぎぬ(笑) (English equivalent: Kotoba o Mochiite Kanaderu Mono wa Sainou ni Arazu, Tada no Kioku ni Suginu (Emi) (13:48)
2. (Kuruucrew) How Robot Are You? (8:36)
3. (Kuruucrew) Walking Distance (Buzzcocks cover) (3:49)

Total time 26:13

Sajjanu band members:

- Nepperining Funazuma / guitar (left side) (1)
- Gida Dolgandy Fune / drums (1)
- Maleman Stoltz / guitar (right side) (1)

Kuruucrew band members:

Arnold Asakusanegger / saxophone (1-3)
- Manabu Murata / guitar (2,3)
- Daisuke Satokata / bass (2,3)
- Isamu Iwamoto / drums (2,3)

Note actual translation of the track 1 Japanese title is something like: "Those who play with words are not talented and are just memories (laughs)", or "What you play with words is not talented, it's just a memory (laughs)".

CD GrassAddCity - GAC-01 Limited Edition, 400 copies (Japan, 2009)

Note: The Sajjanu official website link we have on their page is dead. Current one is https://sajjanupechiku.wixsite.com/sajjanu

This album by Sajjanu needs the musicians adding:
- Gida Dolgandy Fune / drums
- Nepperining Funazuma / left-guitar
- Maleman Stoltz  / right-guitar

There is also a better cover image for it, in the same proportions as the rest of the albums on our page, on bandcamp, as well as some additional releases info.

NAP: Thanks, done by Julien.


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^ Oh, I didn't even know about this thread... Embarrassed

Should I re-post my top (or "worst") biographies over there?
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^ Thanks, David, I remember this.

By the way, I'd suggest to discuss bios in the Biographies Needing Attention thread. It's more convenient for us and, if they would look, for admins and genre teams.
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^ Yes, I suppose that's why the admins insist now that any new band or artist suggestions that are submitted to the forum for possible addition to PA are complete - with a biography and source of listening samples included. The teams don't seem to have the time (or the will) to do the necessary research and editing to prepare these biographies themselves. I'll try and put something together over the coming days for those three artists that I highlighted above and post it in the Biographies Needing Attention thread. Smile
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^ David, from my experience, everybody, including teams, prefer finished works. Even more, nobody likes incomplete works.

Genre teams are busy with their current work (evaluation, adding new artists etc) and if we say "Guys, here are the sources, you can compile a bio using them" most likely new bio will be never published. Smile
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ TBC rather means Never Be Continued. Smile I doubt teams, with the amount of their current work, remember all unfinished bios.

Real help from our side would be a message to a team like: 
"Hello, guys. Current bio of the band <X> reads: "TBC" (or what's written there). We suggest to replace it with this one: (copy our text). What do you think?"

I have to mention that simple copy/paste from other sources isn't recommended, unless we have a permission from quoted source.

And, last but not least, let's make these things in a slower mode. Future generations should also have their share of work. Smile 

Yes, I agree that the amount of work to tackle this problem is too huge for us to do at the same speed that we have dealt with the albums without track listings, so let's just do it as and when we have the time free, starting with those three worst cases I mentioned above.

I didn't mean a straight copy and paste when I said to use the info written on those links, but merely that the teams (including anyone helping them here) could use the info written there to create the biography from. Smile
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