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lazland
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Topic: King Crimson!Posted: February 23 2012 at 12:10 |
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Is it time for a "he's not the Messiah".......joke? ![]() Seriously, I have an easier time making sense of the reports from the Hadron Collider than deciphering some of these posts.
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infandous
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Posted: February 23 2012 at 13:20 |
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No, Fripp is certainly the Messiah of prog rock.
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sagichim
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Posted: February 23 2012 at 13:55 |
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No ...i'm the messiah!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 23 2012 at 13:56 |
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You're not the Messiah. you're just a very naught y boy!
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Posted: February 23 2012 at 19:37 |
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I thought Fripp was the dinosaur.
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Posted: February 24 2012 at 02:31 |
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Somebody has digged out his bones. Edited by ole-the-first - February 25 2012 at 06:30 |
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Posted: March 07 2012 at 14:13 |
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Cool cover of Matte Kudasai, great animation as well:
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NickHall
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Posted: March 07 2012 at 15:49 |
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only crimson king means anything tho none are bad as such
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VanVanVan
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Posted: March 07 2012 at 16:03 |
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I probably enjoy that song a little bit more than it deserves. Nice avatar, btw.
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PolarWolf
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 07:07 |
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I finally received my Starless & Bible Black 40th Anniversary box and it is very impressive already in the first few listens (well, I knew Great Deceiver and Fracture beforehand). I don't usually listen improvisational music much but the mood created in e.g. Trio and the title song is amazing. And it's exciting that Fripp didn't tell at the time of release that many of the tracks were recorded live. Also the Night Watch is beautiful. The intro especially is the most magical moment on the album. So, this is the fourth KC album I have (others are the debut, Red & THRAK) and it seems I'm fast becoming a King Crimson fan. There's something magical in their music. Except their 80's material maybe, because so far the songs I've heard from that time have left me cold. Lark's Tongues is probably the next in line. Poseidon is said to be a remake of the debut but I guess I'll have to find out myself. |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 08:56 |
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I have to say I'm a bit jealous of you guys who get into classic prog well after the initial event. Great box sets if you can cough up the cash. On the other hand many of us got to see the acts live. And then again there is all this old concert stuff now available on DVD that surprises me. So anyway, enjoy your KC exploration. I like the '80's stuff though. I can understand how it might leave you cold. You really have to follow what Fripp was doing post Red. He was exploring many avenues before he decided to reconstitute the band.
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 09:08 |
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Is it true that the whole Starless and Bible Black album (except for "The Great Deceiver" and "Lament" and maybe "The Mincer"?) was edited from that one concert now released on CD as "The Night Watch"?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 09:24 |
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No rumor, it's in the liner notes of Nightwatch. Although there is some stuff there that isn't in the live show released on CD and vice versa. Fripp basically says that he likes to try stuff out live first and so Starless was derived from live recordings with the audience edited out. Edited by Slartibartfast - March 20 2012 at 09:27 |
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Zombywoof
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 09:58 |
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I suggest collecting everything from the 70s that you can get your hands on, but skip those remixes!! SW and RF cut a lot of stuff out of the 40th anniversary sets (mostly "Lizard") and ruined a lot of the dynamics of the original! I'm a big fan of "Poseidon" ... I don't get why everyone hates it. |
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 10:10 |
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I think your right, those that comes from "new" music moving backwards into prog, may find early 80's very strange and even bad, but that was not the way it felt back then, everything was brand new. Exposure, The League of G, reformation of KC, Eno/byrne, Remain in Light, Gabriel IV. It all felt natural at the time, exploring new tech. possibilities, mixing more "world" into the tracks, ect. ect. (the boring stuff was Genesis Yes Floyd, because they didnt evolve, they just added more mainstream into the music) |
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 10:21 |
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Fripp has never been content to rest on his laurels and has constantly reinvented himself and KC. That, in my opinion, is a good thing. Too many great prog bands from the 70s either dumbed themselves down to achieve commercial success or simply continued to regurgitate the same music for decades. Wasn't the whole reason most of us were initially attracted to prog rock was because it was different? While I love certain periods of many bands, I certainly don't want them to stand still and the ones that still hold my interest are the ones that continue to evolve, but in a good way.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 10:41 |
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Spot on dude!!! Speaking as someone who hopped on the prog bandwagon in the late '70's, that is precisely my impression. While you may not like the results he, uh, regurgitated in proper fashion. Which is to say, he incorporated elements from the past, and did it well. Edited by Slartibartfast - March 20 2012 at 10:42 |
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 10:52 |
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Well Fripp's work with Crimson is certainly scratching the surface. Anybody from the mid-16th century remember this one off : ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 10:59 |
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Oh yes, that also came up in this tread, just last night.
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Posted: March 20 2012 at 11:18 |
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If you enjoyed that you really need to get the live album:
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