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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2012 at 17:37
Good interview.  I haven't read or seen an interview with him in many years.
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Very interesting interview. Quite philosophical is ole Vangelis. Success has made him a 'prisoner' as he is unable to break the mould apparently.
He repeated his view that he is a servant to music and the creative process involves him being a bit like a lightning conductor (although he didn't use those words exactly). He also believes that all 'forced' music is a manufactured product and so 'good' music can only happen via a natural process and not be too heavily influenced by the composer. Could be considered a bit 'odd' perhaps but all the true genius in any field are 'odd' by their very nature.Smile
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

...He repeated his view that he is a servant to music and the creative process involves him being a bit like a lightning conductor (although he didn't use those words exactly). He also believes that all 'forced' music is a manufactured product and so 'good' music can only happen via a natural process and not be too heavily influenced by the composer. Could be considered a bit 'odd' perhaps but all the true genius in any field are 'odd' by their very nature.Smile
 
His interview during "Heaven and Hell" has always been, and remained, one of the single greatest inspirations for me. He mentions the difference between "commercial music" and the rest of music ... and then even goes on to say that he uses odd things and instruments in his work ... like there are t-spoons in everyone of his works!
 
I really think he is a product of a time where theater, film and art, and music were so experimental, and some of the spaghetti stuck in the wall and some didn't. He is very capable of expressing it and explaining it, however, this is very difficult to explain to most people that look at the "arts" as some sort of an academic process, as the definitions of "progressive" music have become ... at that point the music is "dead" because you will not be appreciated for copying what was written down ... and not a single musician out there can ever be himself, or original ... because it is now "defined".
 
I am not sure that he is one of the most experimental and creative ones. I kinda think that Edgar Froese fits in there somewhere, and so does Riuichi Sakamoto, and Michael Oldfield, and Klaus Schulze ... people who have never quit experimenting with sounds and textures in music ... and lost their "progressive" side because no one could peg them down with definitions.
 
There is always hope with the arts ... any of them ... it's just a matter of turning your eyes in another direction and stop looking at the past ... it's really simple!
 
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

...He repeated his view that he is a servant to music and the creative process involves him being a bit like a lightning conductor (although he didn't use those words exactly). He also believes that all 'forced' music is a manufactured product and so 'good' music can only happen via a natural process and not be too heavily influenced by the composer. Could be considered a bit 'odd' perhaps but all the true genius in any field are 'odd' by their very nature.Smile
 
His interview during "Heaven and Hell" has always been, and remained, one of the single greatest inspirations for me. He mentions the difference between "commercial music" and the rest of music ... and then even goes on to say that he uses odd things and instruments in his work ... like there are t-spoons in everyone of his works!
 
I really think he is a product of a time where theater, film and art, and music were so experimental, and some of the spaghetti stuck in the wall and some didn't. He is very capable of expressing it and explaining it, however, this is very difficult to explain to most people that look at the "arts" as some sort of an academic process, as the definitions of "progressive" music have become ... at that point the music is "dead" because you will not be appreciated for copying what was written down ... and not a single musician out there can ever be himself, or original ... because it is now "defined".
 
I am not sure that he is one of the most experimental and creative ones. I kinda think that Edgar Froese fits in there somewhere, and so does Riuichi Sakamoto, and Michael Oldfield, and Klaus Schulze ... people who have never quit experimenting with sounds and textures in music ... and lost their "progressive" side because no one could peg them down with definitions.
 
There is always hope with the arts ... any of them ... it's just a matter of turning your eyes in another direction and stop looking at the past ... it's really simple!
 
 
Did occur to me watching that interview that I had already heard those views expressed here.Big smile
 
The interviewer clearly struggled at times and I couldn't help but have some symathy for him.LOL
 
Anyway to Vangelis and his glorious eccentricity and amazing talent I raise a glass or twoBeer
 
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so this isn't a thread about talking vaginas... 
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Still waiting for a new album
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Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

Still waiting for a new album
Seems to me that Vangelis wants to concentrate on his classical composing while the record company want the electronic stuff. Seems to have lead to an impasse.
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