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Topic: KC-- Ladies Of The Road Posted: March 31 2012 at 19:16
This song is amazing. The song is harsh, but warm, hard, but sentimental.... The lyrics are so raw, sung so well, they are so explicit, so outright chauvinist that they come all the way round and are bizarro-world feminist.
Does anyone here find the song offensive, or find it out of place? I sense real desperation about the whole thing thematically, very well presented, it kind of is an inversion of all the chauvinistic rock songs, in the sense that is a chauvinistic rock song which negates the usual rock songs, because the singer/lyricist is regretful, but wistful, and knows that these girls he took advantage of as a rock star are like "apples we stole in our youth." Its a vicious little ditty.
So what are the thoughts and reactions to this, and would you want anyone to know you enjoyed this song?
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Posted: March 31 2012 at 19:34
It is a great song from a great album. Not only do I want people to know I like this song, I want them to know I love King Crimson, so I play KC at work all the time. I was playing this very album 3 days ago and after this song played my boss asked what band it was. She liked the way the song sounded, but I doubt she'd like the lyrics if she read/heard them. She also commented how she always asks what band it is whenever KC is playing, but never can recognize it because each period of KC sounds so different. I also prefer 80-90's Crimson, so it definitely is a big change when I play an earlier album.
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Posted: March 31 2012 at 21:11
HolyMoly wrote:
Love it. Powerful song. And just enough self awareness to keep it in safe harbor, unlike, say, Hot Blooded.
That song is so non-subtle that it's kind of funny.
I personally thought that Ladies of the Road was terrible, but it's been a long time since I've heard it. Personally, I think that lyrics like that compormise the quality of the music, so I doubt I'd be very appreciative. I'll try to give it (and the rest of Islands) a listen tonight or tomorrow.
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Posted: March 31 2012 at 21:33
It's the song that stood out to me on Islands.
I do not have the affection for that album that others have. It has some fair jams, but some parts, especiallt Mark Charig's horn solos, are irritating.
My personal favourite on Islands is the title track. I'm not that big about Formentera Lady, but I love Sailor's Tale and Ladies Of The Road. It is a really beautiful album, but one of the things I don't like about it, though, is that a fair amount of it revolves around noodly improv, especially Formentera Lady.
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Posted: April 01 2012 at 19:40
I actually like Formentera Lady quiet a bit. It's perhaps a bit slow and quiet, but somehow it doesn't bore me anyway. Then, there's the version on the live album "Ladies of the Road", which is a bit stronger, however, it is also a lot shorter, and segues perfectly with "Sailor's Tale", making both sound as one same song (lasting for a bit over 10 min the pair, so you can imagine how much was omitted from Formentera); however, I still somehow prefer the original studio version because of Keith Tippet's piano, and the female chorals that sound so... (haunting?).
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Posted: April 02 2012 at 00:51
Another thing i really like and isn't mentioned are the great vocals by boz burrel, i think he really suits the creepy, disturbing vibe of the music. I prefer him on Adrian Belew and Gordon Haskell any day.
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Posted: April 02 2012 at 13:17
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Another thing i really like and isn't mentioned are the great vocals by boz burrel, i think he really suits the creepy, disturbing vibe of the music. I prefer him on Adrian Belew and Gordon Haskell any day.
Same here. Probably the most underrated of Crimson's vocalists. Not quite as dynamic as Lake or Belew, but could have been had Fripp kept that lineup together for a tad longer.
I was looking at some sites and most critics don't seem to like this one. Don't see why. I like the whole Southern European seaside vibe I get from it.
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Posted: April 02 2012 at 13:40
RoyFairbank wrote:
This song is amazing. The song is harsh, but warm, hard, but sentimental.... The lyrics are so raw, sung so well, they are so explicit, so outright chauvinist that they come all the way round and are bizarro-world feminist.
... So what are the thoughts and reactions to this, and would you want anyone to know you enjoyed this song?
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Posted: April 02 2012 at 13:48
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
sagichim wrote:
Another thing i really like and isn't mentioned are the great vocals by boz burrel, i think he really suits the creepy, disturbing vibe of the music. I prefer him on Adrian Belew and Gordon Haskell any day.
Same here. Probably the most underrated of Crimson's vocalists. Not quite as dynamic as Lake or Belew, but could have been had Fripp kept that lineup together for a tad longer.
I was looking at some sites and most critics don't seem to like this one. Don't see why. I like the whole Southern European seaside vibe I get from it.
Because most critics hate everything that's any good.
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Posted: April 04 2012 at 19:46
I like the album.
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Posted: April 04 2012 at 23:28
But you know what, as much as i love the band and the album, i would prefer another good song like the rest of the album instead of 'song of the gulls'. It doesn't really hold my interest. what do you think?
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