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    Posted: April 23 2012 at 12:17
If you ask me i think that life mostly isnt fair.
if life would be fair there weren't be no hunger,no wars,justice,no over population,...

If you think that life is fair can you pleas enlighten me Clap



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 12:23
Of course it bloody isn't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 12:28
Yes its fair.  We all get what we deserve  in the end.  That is why I will be winning the Lottery at the weekend.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 12:43

Not at all.

 
Most of us get much better than we deserve. At least those of us sitting in front of a computer screen.
 
But it's virtually never fair or just. Sometimes you're on the short end and sometimes not.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 12:44
Depends which way you look upon it.

I am exceptionally lucky to be very happily married, with a lovely son, with a nice house, wonderful wider family, a love of the greatest music on earth, and an appreciation of the important things in life.

On the downside, I work for the government (Angry), but am looking to change this, never have enough money to get all I want, and loathe much of what passes for modern society/government/media.

All in all, though, I am a natural optimist. I genuinely believe that right minded people can make a positive difference, that human beings will continue to strive forward to create a better world, and that life is, most importantly, a most incredible and wondrous gift that should be cherished and enjoyed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 12:47
I think fairness it a rather stupid concept. It implies that you are entitled to something or that something should be provided to you. We're a band of life that happened to appear by rather extraordinary chance in a particular universe run by a certain set of physical rules. Why should there be any structure of "fairness" imposed on that? Life's neither fair nor unfair. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 13:13
There's no reason why life should be either fair or unfair, and indeed it's neither of both.
It's just what it is, an incredibly complex combination of quasi-deterministic physical laws, random chance (which is what puts the adjective "quasi-deterministic"), our own behaviour / input to the world and the behaviour / input of everybody else and everything else. All in all far too complex to predict or to understand even if that would be possible in principle, which very probably it is not.
Fairness is just a concept constructed by humans and I believe that nature has nothing to say about it.
 
Having said that, it's fair (auch!) to say that we humans seem to have a certain degree of command over our own lives and future (which is quite amazing if you think about it).
  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 13:43
damn you are all so optimistic  i envy you, where ever i look i see bad even in good thinks i see bad stuff.

how do you manage to look always on the bright side of life?

I meditate for 2 years now (constantly) every day for 30 minutes and i still cant look on the bright side.

So if any one can answer me how to be more positive it would be great.

p.s: i think that all my pessimistic comes from SCHOOL from math and phisics,i have one f**ked up teacher that has something against me. I always get super bad grades just today i got an F at math,but my knowladge was for an D+
and at phisics its the same thing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 13:44
There is no inherent "justice" to life. But if the Christian dogmas are right, at least there will be justice in the after-life (a bit late I know Wink). 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 13:51
There is no life fairy. Tongue
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 13:52
Originally posted by PyramidMeetsTheEye PyramidMeetsTheEye wrote:

damn you are all so optimistic  i envy you, where ever i look i see bad even in good thinks i see bad stuff.

how do you manage to look always on the bright side of life?

I meditate for 2 years now (constantly) every day for 30 minutes and i still cant look on the bright side.

So if any one can answer me how to be more positive it would be great.

p.s: i think that all my pessimistic comes from SCHOOL from math and phisics,i have one f**ked up teacher that has something against me. I always get super bad grades just today i got an F at math,but my knowladge was for an D+
and at phisics its the same thing.



I feel people sometimes become pessimistic when they expect something. They expect a good paying job. They expect  to be in good health. They expect to live comfortably. Then when those things fail to occur, it sort of stains the personality. They accept that these good things they expect won't happen, but they will still keep expecting that they will creating this conflict.

To me optimism just is the natural way of things. Everyday I wake up and I'm alive. I just take pleasure in life in all of its forms. Take notice of the little things everywhere you go. The world's quite beautiful. It's hard for me to be negative walking around under a clear blue sky with life blooming all around you. You're here; you're alive. You may as well enjoy it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 13:57
People are unfair, but I've never looked at life itself as unfair.  At least, I think that we all end up in the same state of non-being in the end.  Death is an equal opportunity offender or liberator, depending on one's perspective.

I think that too many blame life, or their lot, when they should blaming themselves for not making the best out of life that they can.  Scratch that, instead of blaming life or themselves, do something about it.  Crap, suffering and horror happens, sure, that is pretty unavoidable. But if one has a defeatist, whiny, poor little me attitude, that's not going to translate to making the best out of life that one can, and, this compatibility view coming from a determinist, we really do have more control than sometimes we realise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:01
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

There is no inherent "justice" to life. But if the Christian dogmas are right, at least there will be justice in the after-life (a bit late I know Wink). 
Boy will they be surprised when they get to heaven and it turns out that the 1% are still the 1% and the rest are still peons. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:03
Life is not fair.

"For millions, this life is a satchel* of tears.... looking around and having nothing to say, and the scientists say we are just spiraling coils of self-replicating DNA nay nay nay."


Something like that, lyrics to Monty Python's the meaning of life,




*sad veil

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:07
It's freaking unfair. You will live through the pain and it will go on and on and on. But it's ain't no reason to surrender though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:11
Life is fair.
It's just that most of humans don't deserve a fair life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:16
It's fair because I occupy my rightful place in the upper echelon of society
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:17
As a whole, yes. For individuals, not so much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 14:25
If you have time to think about how fair life is then it is probably more than fair - especially if you have a computer to stick your views on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 15:01
There is a lot in life that is wrong. It is unfair.
         Not that i automatically have expectations that it should be fair.
        It is just that there is a lot that people suffer through that i would change for them, if i could. But i can't.
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