Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Polls
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - John McLaughlin vs Allan Holdsworth
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

John McLaughlin vs Allan Holdsworth

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
Poll Question: Which guitarist do you prefer?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
37 [57.81%]
27 [42.19%]
You can not vote in this poll

Author
Message
Tom Ozric View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: September 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 4841
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 05:54
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Both are massive talents, John has a high Everest while Alan has the mountain range! Holdsworth for Gazeuse specifically as well as his Ponty work.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Back to Top
moshkito View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
Status: Offline
Points: 5964
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 11:05
Hi,
 
John for sure ... way more intuitive and fun to listen to. I find Allan, a bit too technical for my tastes. Sort of like a graduate school player ... he's better and more technical than anyone!
... none of the hits, none of the time ... you might actually find your own art, or self, instead of paying for a guru or church or social program!



www.pedrosena.com
Back to Top
faviovilla View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie


Joined: October 24 2013
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote faviovilla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 11:50
While john mclaughlin has been always changing his musical horizons; creating jazz rock with miles and , indian music with shakti and in his own with rock, taking flamenco fusion to a higher level and ewith the forth dimension mixing indian with new milenium jazz feel, allan has locked. Him self to his own great stile, without making any change, so you could say that allans biggestmistake is his lack of versatility
Back to Top
cstack3 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: July 20 2009
Location: Chicago, IL USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2325
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 12:11
Interesting comparison, as their guitar styles are rather divergent..... McLaughlin is more traditional, with an amazing command of technique, while Holdsworth charted out a new territory, approaching the guitar more as a solo instrument akin to a saxophone.  McLaughlin has a better command of chord vocabulary IMO.  

I love both of them, but voted for McLaughlin as my favorite of the two.  Check him out in this clip....amazing! 


Back to Top
faviovilla View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie


Joined: October 24 2013
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote faviovilla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 12:30
But the firts thing that makes them diferent is each one's technic, one plays only alternate pucking while the other only legato, to very diferent aproaches with each own posibilities
Back to Top
brainstormer View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 20 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Status: Offline
Points: 616
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote brainstormer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 14:59
This is the first poll where my answer would be 50-50.  Both players
were very influential in my life.  I remember hearing both as a teenager.
The early M.O. writing of McLaughlin was very groundbreaking.  I don't
think anyone else in rock or jazz was playing those kinds of modes.
I think he probably got more conservative as a writer the later he went,
but I don't know a lot of his later work. 

I'm not going to vote on this one.


--
Robert Pearson
Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net
Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com
ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net


Back to Top
Dayvenkirq View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 25 2011
Location: Reno, NV, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 9985
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 15:20
John for the explosive, edgy side of his playing.
"People tell you life is short. ... No, it's not. Life is long. Especially if you make the wrong decisions." - Chris Rock
Back to Top
HannesHolmqvist View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: February 24 2012
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 58
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HannesHolmqvist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2013 at 15:52
John's great, definitely one I like a lot, but Allan...  What he does, I can't even begin to describe. Sometimes it feels like pure magic.
Back to Top
Genital Giant View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie


Joined: March 30 2013
Status: Offline
Points: 94
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Genital Giant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2014 at 02:57
John McLaughlin is amazing and groundbreaking but Allan Holdsworth is the most ridiculous guitar player that's ever lived. There is stuff he plays that no other guitarist can really touch, and I don't mean just from the fluidity of his technique, but also his note selection and use of harmony.

The one big problem for Holdsworth in terms of acceptance and recognition is his concept of harmony is so advanced that most people can't actually hear what he's doing, it goes over a lot of people's heads.
Back to Top
Svetonio View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 20 2010
Location: Serbia
Status: Offline
Points: 7014
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 02:47
Allan Holdsworth
Back to Top
Atavachron View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 48540
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 03:24
Allan invented a new way of playing an instrument, and eventually a new form of music.  The problem is, so did John  LOL .

Insidious comparison.

Back to Top
schizoidman View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 25 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Status: Offline
Points: 351
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote schizoidman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 12:32
John McLaughlin.
Making the useless useful 24/7.
Back to Top
Polymorphia View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 06 2012
Location: here
Status: Offline
Points: 4593
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Polymorphia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 12:35
I prefer McLaughlin's Indian-influenced bends and subdivisions.
Back to Top
proggman View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 14 2013
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 1095
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 16:09
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I think DiMeola could be holding his ground in this poll as well. 
I'd prolly vote for him.

Yes I agree with you.
God took the Promised Land and put it in my bloodstained hand. I can sell you grace for your soul or you'll burn in hell far below.
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 27325
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2014 at 19:01
Yep, close.  I'm giving it up for Allan, particularly since he's behind it the poll at the moment.

Back to Top
King Crimson776 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 12 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2498
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2014 at 02:46
Allan is the greatest guitarist ever.
"It's music, and I like it" - Miles Davis on Sketches of Spain
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.047 seconds.