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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: May 20 2012 at 16:36 |
Never bought it, but in Peruvian stores was sold in the blue color.
BTW: My problem is not in the cover, the music is the problem. 
Iván
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smartpatrol
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:16 |
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Hercules
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:27 |
 smartpatrol wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Thank God I don't have it, but I've only ever seen the navy blue one.
But whichever way you package it, it's still a crock of s**t. |
f**k you  |
I really think you need to leave this site if you consider this kind of direct abuse appropriate.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:35 |
^^^ First time since I have been here that I have seen such a direct attack. 
Use emoticons or other language as this is a friendly place and we are all entitled to an opinion. And I agree that Abacab is the worst but I like the cover too 
Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - May 20 2012 at 17:41
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:36 |
Hercules, even when my opinion about ABACAB is stronger than you'rs, calling something other members like a "crock of s**t" is disrespectful.
Sartpatrol: Your reply is even worst than Hercules statement.
Why don't you both delete your posts before an Adm checks them and warns you both?
Iván
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smartpatrol
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:44 |
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I tried it won't let me delete it
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:46 |
smartpatrol wrote:
I tried it won't let me delete it |
Edit it and leave it blank.
Iván
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:51 |
^^^ Good call Ivan. The Admins will be upset here. Both comments were disrespectful - in saying that Abacab was a mediocre album  , but I guess it has its fans and I can appreciate that... But its better than these: Morbid Angel's Ivid......whatever......Insanus, Metallica's St Anger, ELP's Love Beach. Agree?
Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - May 20 2012 at 17:52
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smartpatrol
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 17:53 |
Hercules wrote:
[QUOTE=smartpatrol] [QUOTE=Hercules]Thank God I don't have it, but I've only ever seen the navy blue one.
But whichever way you package it, it's still a crock of s**t. |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 18:27 |
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I was around when it came out and a huge fan of their early stuff at the time. I didn't think it was all that bad then or now.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 18:40 |
Smartpatrol You have your hands clean now.
Probably Hercules will delete it when he comes back online.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 20 2012 at 20:32
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 18:52 |
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Won't help if you don't delete yours Ivan.
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infocat
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 22:42 |
I listened to it just last week and found it surprisingly enjoyable. "No Reply at All", while an OK pop song, is misplaced. Perhaps it would have been OK later in the album. But I like all of the other songs to varying degrees. Certainly much better than Invisible Touch!
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Progosopher
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 22:44 |
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I was really into it when it first came out, and still think it has some great songs, like the title track and Dodo.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 06:02 |
Pretty strong album musically imo. Does fade a bit in the latter half of Side 2. Invisible Touch is consistently excellent throughout. Both better than Love Beach I agree, But I like Love Beach too (being an ELP megafan)
And yeah. No one has told anyone "  you" since I used to regularly abuse people. Warms the cockles of me heart I tells ya. 
Just kiddin'. We'll leave that stuff to other forums.
I agree the "Crock of sh*t" comment riled me up too. I chose to ignore it. I must be getting better or somethin'
Edited by Snow Dog - May 21 2012 at 06:07
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Horizons
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 06:28 |
richardh wrote:
crispy black colour after I fished it out of the fire |
this made me laugh actually
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 09:31 |
I've warmed to the album in recent years. I'd give it a cautious three stars these days, on the strength of four tracks (Me & Sarah Jane, Dodo/Lurker/Keep it Dark/Abacab) The artwork however, is totally uninspiring, in whatever manifestation. In my opinion. I used to have a white Abacab t-shirt in the 80's. It got washed with my mums red blouse and it came out pink. I never wore it again...
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rushfan4
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 09:39 |
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The peach cover looks the most familiar to me, so I think that one, but I'll try and remember to check tonight.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 13:09 |
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Well, Abacab will probably always remain controversial.
Abacab used to be one of the albums from my favorite Genesis era, which was from And Then There Were Three to Three Sides Live. During the years, the older albums have grown on me and Abacab has "shrunk" on me, so to say, but I still think Abacab is a decent album. Not prog as we know it, but with good songs all over the album.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 13:21 |
ABACAB is quite a good album. There you are damned with faint praise if ever it was. I do think it was a good decision to try writing in a completely different way, and I think that Dodo and title track work to a certain extent. But, I prefer so much other music that I hardly ever listen too it.
It is not a Crock of Gold nor a Crock of the other stuff mentioned earlier in the thread. On which point I think if that is the best you can say then don't say it at all. Say why you don't think it is the best thing since sliced bread don't resort too what is basically name calling. The same goes for the FY. Good job Snowy is still on the medication or......
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