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Dellinger
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Topic: Ringo Starr vs Nick MasonPosted: May 19 2012 at 23:47 |
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Perhaps considered the weakest link on both bands, which drummer do you like better, Nick Mason or Ringo Starr?
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sagichim
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 00:58 |
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Not that Mason is so great, but Ringo????
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 01:45 |
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richardh
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 03:11 |
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Nick if you take the early period. Ringo was never a bad drummer (Tomorrow Never Knows and Day In The Life show he was actually quite good at times)
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 03:52 |
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I'll give it to Mason for the early Floyd work, but this is easily the closest of the all these comparisons.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 04:11 |
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I think the abilities of both of them are woefully misrepresented - the measure of a good drummer is time keeping, not flamboyancy. Ringo may not have been the best drummer in the Beatles, (and that was a typical Lennon joke that people take far too seriously), but he played on all but 3 (or 4) of their songs and I've yet to hear a Beatles song where I thought "Oh, that needs a better drummer...". Nick played on all Floyd songs until The Wall (Mother) and The Final Cut (Two Suns in the Sunset) ... he didn't drum much on AMLoR because he felt he was too out of practice (that's a confidence issue, not an ability issue), again I've yet to hear a Floyd song where I thought "Oh, that needs a better drummer...". However I have heard many Prog songs that I though could have been improved if the drummer had just reigned it in a little.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 04:53 |
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I like both. Mason was brilliant in his own way and I challenge anyone to sound like he did on those early Floyd albums. It's about feel - not counting out time signatures. Ringo did some great drumming on Revolver methinks even going for the toms at some points.
Voted for Mason because I just watched the Pompeii vid. |
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:06 |
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Both underrated, IMO, they weren't sooooo bad. See how Portnoy plays Ringo on Transatlantic's Live in Europe, and Nick has played at least 1 song in 7/4 isn't it?
I think Nick did some good jazzy drumming on his "Carla Bley's" solo Fictitious Sports. My vote goes to him.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 06:35 |
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Mason.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 07:33 |
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 10:45 |
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Both are adequate players, I'd say Mason though because he was a little bit more dynamic.
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 11:05 |
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How does anyone figure that Nick Mason is a weak drummer?
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 11:44 |
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 11:44 |
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I voted for Ringo. I appreciate his drumming more and more over time. Sadly maligned drummer. How come Charlie Watts never gets any stick? (pun not intended)
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Posted: May 20 2012 at 13:26 |
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Best Scott Walker song ever ... probably. I like Mason, but I find Ringo to be more versatile in his chops ... in a subtle way. edit: Yes, they both can count time, I think.
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 06:33 |
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I still think they both are boring as hell.
Ringo though for me.
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Boring as hell? Lying in flames with demons whipping your back, how can you feel *bored* ?
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 07:02 |
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Persuasion deflowers your sympathy.
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 07:05 |
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^Where do I know that from.......
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