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    Posted: July 03 2012 at 12:46

here we go again...



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Post Options Post Options   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2012 at 12:48
Why is this thread still going? TFK are clearly not a Christian band, never have, and probably never will. Singing about peace, love, and justice does not make you a christian. If anything, TFK are a hippie band.
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That obsession we have to put everyone and everything 'in a box'. Quite frankly irritating.
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Originally posted by Barbu

That obsession we have to put everyone and everything 'in a box'. Quite frankly irritating.
H'm like labelling the flowerkings "Symphonic progressive rock" - and there's me thinking that they were a drum and base outfit.....LOL
Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......
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I have a much more important question.  Why is there a superfluous "are" in the question?
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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crap ghost editing Ouch
 
 
 
 
 
/edit: ghost fixed. Tongue


Edited by Dean - July 03 2012 at 13:18


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Because the OP was originally stating that TFK are a christian band, which they are not. The new title is more appropriate imo.
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However science gives us the indisputable FACT of evoution......thus negating logically the need for "God the creator of man" which is the basis of all monotheistic religions......as Douglas Adams succinctly puts it,
Oolon Colluphid - "that about wraps it up for god".
Also religion suffers from Bertrand Russell's teapot example, the burden of truth and all that...science can point at evolution and provide proof beyond all reasonable doubt.....as for religion.....
 
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There are those who scoff at the school boy, calling him frivolous and shallow. Yet it was the school boy who said, Faith is believing what you know ain't so.



i agree with you... i've been a strict materialist most of my life... 'spirituality' is a subjective realm.. that i personally reject from lack of experience/effects... other people do not, however... i guess more often than not now it's become an ideological struggle... but i still don't think empirical physical sciences have a definitive set of statements on phenomenology-- we'll see... the main thing is that's pretty much impossible to argue with ideology/ie -you can't 'win'... now-a-days the (corporate funded)bullsh*t is so thick that the very idea of science has been called into question in america...but that has nothing to do with my orignial post that you reacted against.. which was merely an acceptance that people value subjective spiritual phenomena-which include ethical and moral aspirations not explainable by scientific/empirical investigations... at least not immediately


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Aye, my mrs is always telling me that I should let the god-botherers well alone as they gain comfort from their religious beliefs.......To which I always reply.....Ok, but by that same argument don't scoff at Muslim suicide bombers for believing that their "God" pays them in willing virgins (and eternal virility) for every man, woman or child they take with them into oblivion.....
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Ok, the question nobody has asked:

And what the f**k would be the matter if TFK actually was a christian band????

So much stupid anti-religiousity going one will end up making me turn religious....
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Originally posted by The T

Ok, the question nobody has asked:

And what the f**k would be the matter if TFK actually was a christian band????

So much stupid anti-religiousity going one will end up making me turn religious....
Okay, we have some stupid anti-gay people around somewhere, let's see if that works the same... Evil Smile


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Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by The T

Ok, the question nobody has asked:

And what the f**k would be the matter if TFK actually was a christian band????

So much stupid anti-religiousity going one will end up making me turn religious....
Okay, we have some stupid anti-gay people around somewhere, let's see if that works the same... Evil Smile


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In a sense, I have to agree with T though.  Shocked  What kind of music a band chooses to do is solely up to the artists themselves.  If they want to be a Christian band and sing praises to god in all their songs that is their right as artists.  And it is my right as a consumer to decide whether or not their combination of music and lyrics is pleasing enough to me to make me buy their records (in the case of TFK, the answer is that they are).  Denigrating musicians, be it TFK or Phil Collins (for other crimes against music  Tongue) or Neil Peart (for his early Randian lyrics) or Neal Morse (for his 'praise be to god' lyrics) is pretty silly.  Just avoid those musicians you don't care for and move on. 




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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by The T

Ok, the question nobody has asked:

And what the f**k would be the matter if TFK actually was a christian band????

So much stupid anti-religiousity going one will end up making me turn religious....
Okay, we have some stupid anti-gay people around somewhere, let's see if that works the same... Evil Smile
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I find them boring and preachy. Which does tip the probability scale, but is in no way conclusive.
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Embarrassed well it's obvious this was a troll thread (like XXXX of them) .. let's all have an enjoyable holiday .. despite my reservations...) let's enjoy the ideal... and do better(ie i invite the non-USAians to be indulgent as well-don't ya'll have a bank holiday or something  :D)

aspirations towards peace... i've done a little bit of what i can for the greens here :]///  
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