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Luna
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Posted: July 14 2012 at 18:37 | |||
True, it can be rather gouda, in fact
Edited by SolarLuna96 - July 14 2012 at 18:38 |
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Argonaught
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Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:02 | |||
The asteroid
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cstack3
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Posted: July 14 2012 at 23:57 | |||
Daevid Allen is a master cheese-maker! Check out this bit of "Gong"....amazing!!
How did they manage to rip such excellent music wearing those hats?? I'm not sure if this truly qualifies as "cheesy prog" or not, perhaps just damn strange prog?? |
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Horizons
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Posted: July 15 2012 at 00:05 | |||
Not cheesy at all, just quirky.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 15 2012 at 05:06 | |||
Bless-ed are the cheesemakers...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: July 15 2012 at 15:06 | |||
This is cheesy (not properly prog though..)
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 15 2012 at 19:41 | |||
Oops ... wrong thread? Edited by Dayvenkirq - July 15 2012 at 19:42 |
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burgersoft777
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 06:26 | |||
Gong are cheesy on two levels, the stage act, and the lyrics. Electric Cheese maybe, but cheese all the same.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 10:26 | |||
Now, this is cheese, and of the smelly kind Of course this also qualifies It only takes a couple of seconds for a roadie to handle a guitar, instead of carrying a 10 or 15 Kgms tri-head guitar during 2 hours Iván
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infandous
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
Posted: July 16 2012 at 11:13 | |||
I usually use the word "cheese" or "cheesy" to describe something that sounds ridiculous to me, or just silly (which doesn't necessarily mean I don't like it........though it generally has a bad connotation with me).
However, it's obvious that there are quite a few different interpretations of this, and we can't even agree on whether it is a good or bad thing. So, like most everything else with musical taste and reviews, it's a purely subjective term, even its meaning. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 11:50 | |||
Well, as has been mentioned, these guitars are normally used for one song( as in this case) and is the quickest method to change. Quicker than any roadie, unless he is The Flash.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 12:38 | |||
Equally, it's absurd and uncomfortable to play, you can't even grab the center guitar properly
This is also cheesy: Terrible
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5093 |
Posted: July 16 2012 at 14:09 | |||
Admittedly the Wal tripple neck was originally commisioned and purchased by Rick Wakeman for his band for the Journey To The Center Of The Earth tour and his motives were certainly not musical but just to have something to show-off in his show which had never been seen on a prog stage before.
His bassist at the time was Roger Newell but the thing belonged to Rick. When Rick returned to Yes for GFTO he took the tripple neck with him and handed it to Chris, eventually gave it to him and eventually Chris got his replica and gave the original on permanent loan to Hard Rock Cafe where it stands now in New York.
But it is not less true that at least Chris gave it a meaningful musical use in the Awaken live performances.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 14:13 | |||
Chris plays it succesfully so you are obviously wrong.
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Gerinski
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Posted: July 16 2012 at 16:45 | |||
The center neck (normal fretted bass) is the one played for most of the song, I don't see Chris having any problem with it.
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cstack3
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Posted: July 17 2012 at 00:24 | |||
EXTREMELY cheesy!! What on EARTH were they thinking of?? ELP were recognized as brilliant & talented (if somewhat cheesy) musicians, but sex symbols?? Imagine Greg Lake in an outfit like that today!! Ugh!!
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richardh
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Posted: July 17 2012 at 01:17 | |||
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 17 2012 at 09:43 | |||
Chris is an exception, he's 1.95 meters (6.4 feet) and have long arms, but the normal player won't have the chance to reach it. I still believe it's some sort of exhibitionism
Iván
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 17 2012 at 09:55 | |||
Maybe it is...sometimes...I don't happen to think so, but there you go. Even if it is...can't say I care. Rush used double necks on quite a few old songs. Totally practical. Alex still does use a double neck on Xanadu. Don't think he is posing at his age. but we disagree, as usual, that's ok too.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 17 2012 at 09:58 | |||
The double neck was interesting,it can be played easily by a talented musician (Look at Mike Rutherford). Iván
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