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RedNightmareKing
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Topic: The Mars Volta dilemma... Posted: September 04 2012 at 22:57 |
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Amputechture and Noctourniquet are the more mellow side of TMV, I really dig both records. TMV is really tough to get into, but being a longtime fan of At The Drive-In, I felt the transition was semi-smooth for me. I started out with Frances and Bedlam, which was a sort of crash course. But, I really think Amputechture and Noctourniquet are what you're looking for.
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I consider drone metal to be progressive...
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tamijo
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Posted: August 30 2012 at 21:07 | ||
Keep the bedlam spinning, it's as good as any, just takes a little longer to digest.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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MillsLayne
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
Posted: August 30 2012 at 20:24 | ||
I picked up their new album used for $4 today (a steal, really), so I'm giving them another chance.
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 26 2012 at 22:09 | ||
Don't see how this is a dilemma.... but: I think the first three albums are their best. Octahedron is also excellent. If you don't like any of those, then you probably won't like the latest one. I'm almost positive you won't like The Bedlam in Goliath. |
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: August 26 2012 at 21:52 | ||
I once lent a copy of Rush's Grace Under Pressure to a friend, hoping he would give them a chance (most of my friends are skeptical about Rush and my Rush obsession); he returned it to me six months later, having never listened to it.
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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Mirror Image
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
Posted: August 26 2012 at 21:47 | ||
How about giving the album back to the person you borrowed from? Sheesh..... I never understood people who borrow things and don't return them. This is the very reason why I don't lend original copies of my CDs to people. If they want to hear an album I have, I'll burn them a copy of it.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: August 26 2012 at 17:21 | ||
I don't find their debut to be very hectic at all, it's just after that album the vocals start to irritate me.
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:34 | ||
Interested to see what you think if you can find it
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:28 | ||
I think I have a copy of it somewhere that I borrowed off someone I used to work with, and never gave it back. I'll try and find it. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:23 | ||
^ check out De-Loused one day (if you haven't already), it's the least grating in terms of endless chaos etc - having very little on it overall
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: August 24 2012 at 07:16 | ||
Similar for me. I have FTM and TBIG. Really good musicians, but I find the chaos a little overwhelming and after a while, quite grating and annoying. They're not a band I've been inspired to explore further. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Terra Australis
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 03 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 809 |
Posted: August 24 2012 at 06:43 | ||
I have quite a few of their albums, but I feel the same about them as you... I try them again every now and then but still feel the same.
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JS19
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Posted: July 20 2012 at 04:42 | ||
The first half of Bedlam is the best 40min of music I think I have ever heard. The second half is good but not great. Frances The Mute embodies everything I love about music. I know ever second of that album. Pure genius. Rest of the albums vary from 'good' (Amputechture, Deloused) to 'great' (Octahedron, Noctourniquet).
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 20 2012 at 04:11 | ||
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Sagichim
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Posted: July 20 2012 at 04:02 | ||
My favorite album is Amputechture which was not mentioned here, but by
what you're looking for I agree with the rest, go for Noctourniquet
which is really superb or Octahedron which IMO is their weakest. They
are worth getting into, that's for sure.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: July 20 2012 at 03:42 | ||
You are not the only one, I like everything they did, Bedlam is a split no.1, with the debut. NB: For me, if an album is easy to get into, as in I love it at first sight, 80% says its forgetable, and im not comming back to it much, after a few months.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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richardh
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Posted: July 20 2012 at 02:04 | ||
Based on Frances The Mute I would probably define TMV as brilliant musicians that give me a headache. That said I did rate it 5 stars (maybe because I didn't want to feel left out) . One of those bands I will just file under 'I wish I could like them a lot more than I actually do'. |
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Horizons
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Posted: July 19 2012 at 15:49 | ||
Get away with the new one? You mean you keep listening to it? Or you're trying to escape it?
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5093 |
Posted: July 19 2012 at 15:19 | ||
I'm in the same situation as yourself, I have only their first 2 and although I find them interesting (for lack of a better word...) they did not excite me enough as to make me spend more money on their other albums.
I like Deloused slightly better than Frances but I like them both, it's just that when it comes to choosing music to spend my money in, other TMV albums are not high enough in the wishlist.
For the comments I don't think i will be thrilled by Bedlam but I might like Octohedron and Noctourniquet. Maybe some day...
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 19 2012 at 13:03 | ||
First 3 are great but after that I can take them or leave them and I can't get away with the new one at all.
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