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    Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:02
Two rockin' prog favorites of mine. Both have a nod to Canterbury, some spacey aspects, great solo's and a brilliant sound.
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Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...

But I chose `Mirage' because the main vocals by Nick Greenwood on `Khan' are a little stuffy and forced, kind of sounds like he's trying to sound like Ozzy Osbourne in places!

On the other hand, Camel have Andy Latimar's pleasantly bland but charming vocals, but I'd rather have those any day over the Khan ones!

But seriously, can't go wrong with either album!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:35
The Khan's only album has made a myth of this band, but I love Latimer & co too much and Mirage has been my first Camel's album, listened on a small portable tape in a desert land at 40C and in a particular mental state. So my vote goes to Mirage and its Nimrodel and Lady Fantasy
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Don't like Camel at all, love the Khan album though.
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Both are fine, but I vote for Khan.

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Finally someone who also regards "Mirage" as a Canterbury-type album. Fine! Smile

Although both are great I'll stick to "Space Shanty" because of Dave Stewart's great Hammond organ. A great reminder to listen to this album once again.

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Mirage by a mile.  One of my favorite albums.  the Khan album is just okay for me.
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Space Shanty by quite a margin for me, fantastic album. Mirage is just ok, but it has Freefall, which is a great song. 
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Mirage is Camel's best, but still - Khan.
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...

 
Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you.
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...

 
Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you.
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough.


Edited by octopus-4 - September 26 2012 at 10:27
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Mirage by far.
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mirage. For whatever reason SS never resonated with me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hercules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:55
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...

 
Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you.
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough.
 
I'm pretty sure that two were born in Guildford, Surrey or somewhere very close (Latimer and Ward) Bardens was definitely from London and I'm pretty sure Doug Ferguson was born in Carlisle.
 
Now exactly which of those places is Canterbury (or even near!)?
 
They formed and played almost entirely in London in their formative years (as The Brew and in the embroynic Camel) and had no links whatsoever with Canterbury.
 
The Canterbury bands are so called because that was their home town or because they lived there for extended periods - like Caravan did. Camel have no connection with Canterbury at all - except for some members of Caravan joining them later.
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...

 
Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you.
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough.
 
I'm pretty sure that two were born in Guildford, Surrey or somewhere very close (Latimer and Ward) Bardens was definitely from London and I'm pretty sure Doug Ferguson was born in Carlisle.
 
Now exactly which of those places is Canterbury (or even near!)?
 
They formed and played almost entirely in London in their formative years (as The Brew and in the embroynic Camel) and had no links whatsoever with Canterbury.
 
The Canterbury bands are so called because that was their home town or because they lived there for extended periods - like Caravan did. Camel have no connection with Canterbury at all - except for some members of Caravan joining them later.
I currently live in Rome, Italy. For me Guildford is close enough to Cambridge..Big smile
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More seriously, I agree about Camel in Symphonic prog more than in Canterbury, but I'd do the same with Caravan. 
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Space Shanty, by a hair.
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I don't know about the geography, but in terms of pure sound, Mirage is symphonic, whereas Moonmadness is Canterbury. The Snow Goose is in a subgenre all by itself..

Also, I haven't heard Space Shanty so no vote.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I don't know about the geography, but in terms of pure sound, Mirage is symphonic, whereas Moonmadness is Canterbury. 

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