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    Posted: November 14 2012 at 20:12
My son has replaced Foxtrot with Fragile.

Hearing "South Side of the Sky" from the other room right now.
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But think about it- the whimsy of "Cans and Brahms" and "Five Per Cent of Nothing" has to be appealing to a child!

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But kids need to rebel when they become teens, maybe it's best to feed them dub-step and EDM at a young age so that they say 'hey I'm not listening to your music any more I'm off to jam some King Crimson' when they hit 14.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2012 at 20:19
Originally posted by menawati

But kids need to rebel when they become teens, maybe it's best to feed them dub-step and EDM at a young age so that they say 'hey I'm not listening to your music any more I'm off to jam some King Crimson' when they hit 14.


I never rebelled against my parents' music.  I still listen to country and classic rock.
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I forgot to try to indoctrinate my kids and now they go around singing Starships and Gangnam Style.
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My parents are the ones who brought me to loving music as much as I do - even if they didn't realize it as they did so. My father listened to everyone from Metallica to Jethro Tull. He didn't know 'prog' at all at the time, but he liked everything from Alice in Chains to the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

When I was very young I would have these music knowledge competitions with my dad. It was a lot of fun. He introduced me to Crosby, Stills and Nash. My parents didn't know it, directly. They didn't listen to 'prog' or whatever. My mom listens to more popular stuff now and, looking back, she was interested in hearing new pop music. I never rebelled, but I was deathly afraid of liking anything that wasn't 'rock and roll'. If it was rap, hip-hop, country, or even close, I'd refer to my dad about it all. If he said it was cool, it was cool. I didn't think too much about it when I was 13. Now, when I gained access to the internet, I set off on a journey that has been going ever since. At that time I adored Dream Theater and despised Hank Williams. Now I despise Dream Theater and adore Hank Williams. My musical interests dash from one random thing to the next month by month. I don't know if it was mostly my parents mindsets toward music that pushed me (they never seemed to focus on music or talk about it with anybody), but music was playing constantly, sometimes into the drunken hours of morning. One of my earliest memories is in a dark, small room. It must be around three in the morning and the old stereo on the night stand is playing Nirvana's 'Come As You Are'. Maybe I remember it all wrong. 

Now I'm playing all sorts of things for my son. He's memorized the chorus to Bob Dylan's 'Ballad of a Thin Man'. He likes Savatage and songs off the Anthology of American Folk Music. He's only four, so his development is limited to what I play him. I've no earthly clue what he'll be listening to in ten years. 

Gaw, I do gab on about some inane sh*t, sometimes.


Edited by Alitare - November 14 2012 at 20:36
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Rob, I can already tell that your kid will grow up with great taste.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2012 at 20:43
Originally posted by Epignosis

Originally posted by menawati

But kids need to rebel when they become teens, maybe it's best to feed them dub-step and EDM at a young age so that they say 'hey I'm not listening to your music any more I'm off to jam some King Crimson' when they hit 14.


I never rebelled against my parents' music.  I still listen to country and classic rock.


I resisted my dad's taste in music for a long time. Now I am coming around to it (although now all he listens to is soft music with female vocals a la Norah Jones and Regina SpektorConfused)

A couple of weeks ago I bought a Harry Nillson album. I must be getting old.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sumdeus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2012 at 20:45
Yeah one thing I'm really looking forward to when I have a kid is attempting to sculpt the perfect music taste, and of course the frustration I will go through when my child abandons it for indie dubcore or whatever the hell pop music will be by then.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote geneyesontle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2012 at 21:08
Originally posted by Padraic

I forgot to try to indoctrinate my kids and now they go around singing Starships and Gangnam Style.
 
LOL
 
Heeeeeeey !!! Sexy Lady. Oppan Gangnam Style
That's exactly my reality. Almost every kid in my class loves the music I hate. But Padraic, don't go so mad about that. They will mature and they will be interested in you music someday. Actually, the music video of Gangnam Style is a little guilty pleasure for me. But the music is c**p.


Edited by geneyesontle - November 14 2012 at 21:09
Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
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Post Options Post Options   Quote menawati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2012 at 21:10
Originally posted by Sumdeus

Yeah one thing I'm really looking forward to when I have a kid is attempting to sculpt the perfect music taste

Haha that came across as slightly sinister like treating your kid as an experiment. 
These guys on here with parents who had good musical taste are lucky. There is no way I'm letting my kids experience the rubbish that mine listened to. The 8 year old is into Rush and some space rock and the 6 year old is digging Mozart and Bach. Not a bad start.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sumdeus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2012 at 21:15
Haha well I'm just planning to expose my kids to everything that I wish I was exposed to at a young age. Of course I'll let them go their own way and make their own opinions but I will try to get them to be creative and imaginative from a young age.
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Originally posted by Epignosis

My son has replaced Foxtrot with Fragile.

Hearing "South Side of the Sky" from the other room right now.
What is next. Camel's Moonmadness.
Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
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Whne my eldest daugther was 2 years old she watched the video of High Hopes on TV with a lot of interest and when it finished she started crying because she wanted it again. The day after I spoke to a colleague who had a daughter of the same age and he told me that his daughter has done the same.
 
Since then I started using high hopes to put her to sleep. Now she's a painter and her last painting shows the shadow of a man in a dark-yellow twilight bringing a bell on his shoulder in a country landscape.
 
When I was 4, I've been told, I was used to play Beatles and Animals in the juke-box. It was too early for prog.  
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Does one child know the secret and can say it?
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I bet he'd get a kick out of Mother Gong's Fairy Tales. It is so well done and it's very entertaining with samples and of course music. More narration than singing but i wish i had this when my kids were younger.
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Originally posted by Epignosis

Originally posted by menawati

But kids need to rebel when they become teens, maybe it's best to feed them dub-step and EDM at a young age so that they say 'hey I'm not listening to your music any more I'm off to jam some King Crimson' when they hit 14.


I never rebelled against my parents' music.  I still listen to country and classic rock.

Neither did I. I still listen to, and enjoy, Simon & Garfunkel, John Denver, and classic rock and roll.


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I haven't rebelled, but I listen to so much music that isn't within my parent's tastes
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Post Options Post Options   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2012 at 07:59
Originally posted by lazland

Originally posted by Epignosis

Originally posted by menawati

But kids need to rebel when they become teens, maybe it's best to feed them dub-step and EDM at a young age so that they say 'hey I'm not listening to your music any more I'm off to jam some King Crimson' when they hit 14.


I never rebelled against my parents' music.  I still listen to country and classic rock.

Neither did I. I still listen to, and enjoy, Simon & Garfunkel, John Denver, and classic rock and roll.
Nice to read, I love Arlo Guthrie and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Quote npjnpj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2012 at 10:13
It would just seem terribly wrong if my son would like the same music I do. Music has always been a form of rebellion, regardless of musical content, and continues to be.

How could I expect him to be into something that is now 30 or 40 years old? He has his own generation's music, although I think that stuff is awful.

After all, when I was his age (19), I wasn't prepared to listen to Elvis Presley or Frank Sinatra. they were history, I liked Deep Purple In Rock and Led Zeppelin. My parents hated it, and that's how it should be.

Music, at a rebellious age is not about music, it's about attitude.

Musical apprciation will probably come later. I now listen to stuff I wouldn't have dreamt ot listening to when I was that age. So will he,hopefully.

If my son liked the music I'm still into after decades, I'd think there was something very wrong somewhere.
I like the music of any era, regardless of when it was made.
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