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Federico95
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Topic: Rating The Classics - Yes: Drama Posted: December 05 2012 at 13:03 |
I may be the only one, but it is my favourite Yes album ever. It combines incredibly well the intricate Prog style of the previous years and the melodic vibe of the '80s. Machine Messiah is my favourite track in their discography, and Does It Really Happen? and Tempus Fugit are two incredibly brilliant pieces of music.
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lazland
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Posted: December 05 2012 at 09:37 |
I was very harsh when I reviewed and gave it a solitary one star. It is not that bad, in that there are some redeeming features.
In truth, though, I have never been able to enjoy this album, so two stars from me.
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: December 05 2012 at 05:12 |
Maybe 4 stars.
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Posted: December 03 2012 at 11:37 |
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 03 2012 at 04:47 |
3.5 stars. Very good album. It has the makings of a flawed masterpiece.
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Posted: December 02 2012 at 20:23 |
I like Tormato more than it, and Relayer? Shouldn't even be compared, sorry. Fly From Here was awful sadly. Oh well - i can be satisfied with Yes' classic period for long enough.
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Posted: December 02 2012 at 20:04 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
A pretty mixed album. | That's why it's not a classic.My vote: not sure. I have to hear the album in its entirety though there is something dreadful about the idea of wasting time on something that may not work. EDIT: Great. Now I sound like an anti-prog wuss. |
Maybe but Tago Mogo is also mixed. | Look, we can ask the whole world, which is even worse, and the results are going to be much more mixed than ever. If there is any group that will yield solids results, then it will be the group that is eligible (i.e. with the penchant for German experimental psych-rock) for reviewing the album. |
I don't think its mixed. To me it is consistently great from beginning to end. Drama that is. |
Agreed. I like the whole dang thing. 4 star album at least. Better than Tormato or Relayer. And although 90125 was no slouch IMO either, I'm glad we finally got a follow-up to Drama. Should have just got Trevor to do the lead vocals, but Benoit did a pretty good imitation.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: December 02 2012 at 19:50 |
This is a 3 star album for sure,
Machine Messiah is great. Tempus Fugit is awfully good too and Into the Lens is ok.. The rest of the album is insipid.
Half quality, half dreck. The definition of the three star album.
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 22:52 |
I'm not sure, the only song I really like a lot is Machine Messiah, and I like White Car and Run Through the Light a lot too (even when the last one is usually one of the least loved ones). The rest of the songs, even though not particularly bad, are quiet forgettable to me. I guess 3 stars would be right, though I would be tempted to go with 4 just for Machine Messiah... 3.5 would be best though. I will vote 3.
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 15:40 |
I would give it a solid 3 stars. I like it, and "Does it Really Happen" is a big favorite of mine. And "Tempus Fugit" is great too. The other songs aren't bad either. "Run Through the Light" comes closest to bad.
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 15:39 |
Yes' second studio album after the classics is obviously a solid 3-star one. The songs have their moments, but most of them just seem to miss the mark. By the way, I refuse to believe that the absence of Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman diminishes this album because it is way better than its predecessor. And in the context of a barren year like 1980, it may still find its place in my top-10 of that year. And now I stop before I can post this as a review.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 14:35 |
I hate the production of the record, so that's a giveaway for me right there. As for the music itself, meh, it's decent. - A good 3 stars. Machine Messiah is only track I really like.
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 12:47 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
A pretty mixed album. | That's why it's not a classic.My vote: not sure. I have to hear the album in its entirety though there is something dreadful about the idea of wasting time on something that may not work. EDIT: Great. Now I sound like an anti-prog wuss. |
Maybe but Tago Mogo is also mixed. | Look, we can ask the whole world, which is even worse, and the results are going to be much more mixed than ever. If there is any group that will yield solids results, then it will be the group that is eligible (i.e. with the penchant for German experimental psych-rock) for reviewing the album. |
I don't think its mixed. To me it is consistently great from beginning to end. Drama that is.
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 12:13 |
One good song at the beginning, one decent song at the end, the rest is total crap. 2 stars.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 11:50 |
geneyesontle wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
A pretty mixed album. | That's why it's not a classic.My vote: not sure. I have to hear the album in its entirety though there is something dreadful about the idea of wasting time on something that may not work. EDIT: Great. Now I sound like an anti-prog wuss. |
Maybe but Tago Mogo is also mixed. |
Look, we can ask the whole world, which is even worse, and the results are going to be much more mixed than ever. If there is any group that will yield solids results, then it will be the group that is eligible (i.e. with the penchant for German experimental psych-rock) for reviewing the album.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 01 2012 at 11:53
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 11:42 |
geneyesontle wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
A pretty mixed album. | That's why it's not a classic.
My vote: not sure. I have to hear the album in its entirety though there is something dreadful about the idea of wasting time on something that may not work.
EDIT: Great. Now I sound like an anti-prog wuss.
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Maybe but Tago Mogo is also mixed. |
Not to me :D
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 11:33 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
A pretty mixed album. | That's why it's not a classic.
My vote: not sure. I have to hear the album in its entirety though there is something dreadful about the idea of wasting time on something that may not work.
EDIT: Great. Now I sound like an anti-prog wuss.
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Maybe but Tago Mogo is also mixed.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 10:34 |
geneyesontle wrote:
A pretty mixed album. |
That's why it's not a classic.
My vote: not sure. I have to hear the album in its entirety though there is something dreadful about the idea of wasting time on something that may not work.
EDIT: Great. Now I sound like an anti-prog wuss.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 01 2012 at 10:40
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 10:33 |
4 stars
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Moogtron III
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Posted: December 01 2012 at 09:30 |
3 stars It's nice, but not sensational like the '70's albums.
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