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This is the first X vs Y poll in which I'm wan't immediately certain who to vote for (and wish there were Both/Neither button). 

Both are the pinnacle creation by the apex "prog" bands of the early '70s. If the victory were to be awarded by meticulous counting the points scored in different categories, I'd probably have to go for CTTE. But since Red is a little more ground-breaking, after much deliberation, the vote goes to ...

RED


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Red.
 
What's wrong with Providence? Better than most of the tracks, improvs or not, on SaBB, IMO.
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I much prefer Red.
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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Red.
 
What's wrong with Providence? Better than most of the tracks, improvs or not, on SaBB, IMO.
Providence > Red (title track)
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"Providence" is the "Moonchild" of the album.  The elongated drivel that keeps me from handing the album five stars.

Funny story:  I was leaving the parking lot from the school where I teach, having forgotten that Red was live in the CD player.  All of a sudden I heard this violin.  I had no AC in the car, so the windows were down.  My eyes flew all over campus trying to discern the location of that strange violin that sounded so close. 

Eventually, I realized I am dumb.
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am I the only one that loves Moonchild?
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No your not. We are actually a small group of weird people.Cool

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Red.
 
What's wrong with Providence? Better than most of the tracks, improvs or not, on SaBB, IMO.


Yes it is. And I dare say it's my favorite track on Red!
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?
Nobody is the only one.
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Probably the two best prog albums ever made. I have to vote CTTE but Red beats just about everything else.
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

am I the only one that loves Moonchild?

No
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Red is the stronger style (heavy prog).

Close is the stronger album.

Combine these two and you get the ultimate.
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Close to the edge.


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Points: 5093 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2012 at 06:37
Very tough call but I had to vote for CTTE, a (prog) textbook example of a flawless album.
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Nobody listens to the Grateful Dead.


:(

still, i think it is simply ridiculous to say "composition>improvisation". imo the best compositions usually involve improvisation to a certain degree, and I also like a lot of music that is composed through improvisation itself...


How about this
COMPLEX Composition>Improvisation

That's what I iniltially meant, f**kAngryAngry
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Red, if only for "Starless" alone. Never has the end of the world sounded more beautiful than that one track.

For the record, I like "Providence". Yes, it's the weakest track on the album, but even that's a keeper.


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Points: 2082 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2012 at 04:48
nowadays it's probably Red, but CttE had extremely huge impact to me when it was released and it still is one of my life's big albums. CttE got my vote ...

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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Nobody listens to the Grateful Dead.


:(

still, i think it is simply ridiculous to say "composition>improvisation". imo the best compositions usually involve improvisation to a certain degree, and I also like a lot of music that is composed through improvisation itself...


How about this
COMPLEX Composition>Improvisation

That's what I iniltially meant, f**kAngryAngry


And improvisation cannot be complex?   Should I seriously choose a set of, say, Spocks Beard over Barbara Dennerlein or Bela Fleck?  Why on earth?  Apart from all this, complexity is not everything in music and it is also a very broad based concept, nothing to be pigeon-holed in the way you are attempting to.
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