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Right now I'm reading...



Compilation of short stories detailing Philip Marlowe's earlier adventures. Fantastic as usual, though the short story format results in a somewhat different reading experience than the full length novels. I'm sure even Chandler's grocery shopping lists had more wit and finesse in their prose than many authors have in their entire bibliographies.


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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Started "The Road" by McCarthy since it's like, the greatest novel ever and all according to a few people/sites from the internet LOL

Hope so with all this hype!


I didn't put it down at all while i was reading it. Even ended up missing the first hour of the Sunday Night Game that week while I finished it.
This is what I mean. Well, come Friday afternoon I really buckle down with it, hoping it can live up these expectations.

its not that long a book to read to be honest.....read the whole book in one sitting.....this was before the film was about.....


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Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

Right now I'm reading...



Compilation of short stories detailing Philip Marlowe's earlier adventures. Fantastic as usual, though the short story format results in a somewhat different reading experience than the full length novels. I'm sure even Chandler's grocery shopping lists had more wit and finesse in their prose than many authors have in their entire bibliographies.
Been meaning to read a Chandler novel for the last 30 years or so;,,,,maybe I'll pick up The Long Goodbye and read it this winter. Love all the old Hollywood films based on his novels.
 
btw....I noticed your profile says you are interested in Forteana. Which aspects,  and do you ever read Fortean Times or  visit their web site?
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It's mostly UFOlogy and cryptozoology, as well as esoteric religions I'm interested in. Recently branched out into the weirder corners of true crime too as a result of my interest in crime fiction. And yes, I do regularly visit the Fortean Times website... I have an account registered at their forum, but never posted there.
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Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

It's mostly UFOlogy and cryptozoology, as well as esoteric religions I'm interested in. Recently branched out into the weirder corners of true crime too as a result of my interest in crime fiction. And yes, I do regularly visit the Fortean Times website... I have an account registered at their forum, but never posted there.
 
I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry. I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?
I haven't posted at Fortean Times web site in a long time but I use dr wu there also.
 
I started a thread on the UFO phenomenon here back in the Spring but almost all of those who posted found it to be not credible (or a joke..) and didn't even want to discuss it in a serious manner. So much for open minds. LOL
I find the whole area and related sociological aspects fascinating on multiple levels.
If you want to discuss it via  private messages or start another thread let me know.
 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

It's mostly UFOlogy and cryptozoology, as well as esoteric religions I'm interested in. Recently branched out into the weirder corners of true crime too as a result of my interest in crime fiction. And yes, I do regularly visit the Fortean Times website... I have an account registered at their forum, but never posted there.
 
I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry. I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?
I haven't posted at Fortean Times web site in a long time but I use dr wu there also.
 
I started a thread on the UFO phenomenon here back in the Spring but almost all of those who posted found it to be not credible (or a joke..) and didn't even want to discuss it in a serious manner. So much for open minds. LOL
I find the whole area and related sociological aspects fascinating on multiple levels.
If you want to discuss it via  private messages or start another thread let me know.
 
Au contraire, I was more than willing to discuss the matter in a serious manner, you just have a very specialised view of what the word serious means and seem to regard sceptics as closed-minded.


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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

It's mostly UFOlogy and cryptozoology, as well as esoteric religions I'm interested in. Recently branched out into the weirder corners of true crime too as a result of my interest in crime fiction. And yes, I do regularly visit the Fortean Times website... I have an account registered at their forum, but never posted there.
 
I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry. I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?
I haven't posted at Fortean Times web site in a long time but I use dr wu there also.
 
I started a thread on the UFO phenomenon here back in the Spring but almost all of those who posted found it to be not credible (or a joke..) and didn't even want to discuss it in a serious manner. So much for open minds. LOL
I find the whole area and related sociological aspects fascinating on multiple levels.
If you want to discuss it via  private messages or start another thread let me know.
 
Au contraire, I was more than willing to discuss the matter in a serious manner, you just have a very specialised view of what the word serious means and seem to regard sceptics as closed-minded.
 
Specialised view...? I think you must be recalling a different conversation on a different planet.
LOL
And sceptics usually are closed -minded.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

It's mostly UFOlogy and cryptozoology, as well as esoteric religions I'm interested in. Recently branched out into the weirder corners of true crime too as a result of my interest in crime fiction. And yes, I do regularly visit the Fortean Times website... I have an account registered at their forum, but never posted there.
 
I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry. I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?
I haven't posted at Fortean Times web site in a long time but I use dr wu there also.
 
I started a thread on the UFO phenomenon here back in the Spring but almost all of those who posted found it to be not credible (or a joke..) and didn't even want to discuss it in a serious manner. So much for open minds. LOL
I find the whole area and related sociological aspects fascinating on multiple levels.
If you want to discuss it via  private messages or start another thread let me know.
 
Au contraire, I was more than willing to discuss the matter in a serious manner, you just have a very specialised view of what the word serious means and seem to regard sceptics as closed-minded.
 
Specialised view...? I think you must be recalling a different conversation on a different planet.
LOL
And sceptics usually are closed -minded.
Wink
 
Anyone who agrees with you is open-minded and serious, anyone who disagrees with you is closed-minded and not being serious. How very big of you. 


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You only discuss things with an open mind when there's evidence for them. Or maybe when discussing them with an open mind doesn't require one to fundamentally rethink rigorously tested physical hypotheses. But you certainly don't do it when you have neither of those situations.

If you disagree, then we can discuss the free energy machine I've built.  
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

It's mostly UFOlogy and cryptozoology, as well as esoteric religions I'm interested in. Recently branched out into the weirder corners of true crime too as a result of my interest in crime fiction. And yes, I do regularly visit the Fortean Times website... I have an account registered at their forum, but never posted there.
 
I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry. I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?
I haven't posted at Fortean Times web site in a long time but I use dr wu there also.
 
I started a thread on the UFO phenomenon here back in the Spring but almost all of those who posted found it to be not credible (or a joke..) and didn't even want to discuss it in a serious manner. So much for open minds. LOL
I find the whole area and related sociological aspects fascinating on multiple levels.
If you want to discuss it via  private messages or start another thread let me know.
 
Au contraire, I was more than willing to discuss the matter in a serious manner, you just have a very specialised view of what the word serious means and seem to regard sceptics as closed-minded.
 
Specialised view...? I think you must be recalling a different conversation on a different planet.
LOL
And sceptics usually are closed -minded.
Wink
 
Anyone who agrees with you is open-minded and serious, anyone who disagrees with you is closed-minded and not being serious. How very big of you. 
Hmm.....that sounds an awful lot like ...you.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

You only discuss things with an open mind when there's evidence for them. Or maybe when discussing them with an open mind doesn't require one to fundamentally rethink rigorously tested physical hypotheses. But you certainly don't do it when you have neither of those situations.

If you disagree, then we can discuss the free energy machine I've built.  
Spoken like a true closed-minded sceptic.
 
 
btw....let's discuss that free energy machine.....is that the one the gubbermint has been keeping secret from the people all these years?
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Hmm.....that sounds an awful lot like ...you.
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Books, this thread is about books, I read mostly non fiction and science fiction.
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Books, this thread is about books, I read mostly non fiction and science fiction.
Quite right............so who are a few of your favorite sci-fi authors and novels..?

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Ian Banks
Frederik  Pohl
David Brin
China Mielville
Margaret Atwood...............and many more.
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Ian Banks
Frederik  Pohl
David Brin
China Mielville
Margaret Atwood...............and many more.
I love Banks and I'm just starting his last Culture novel.....The Hydrogen Sonata.
I read Pohl and Brin many years back....read Mielville's followup to Perdidio Station a few years ago....and Atwoods Handmaids Tale a long time ago.
 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry.


What kind of college offers courses in UFOlogy? I imagine maybe the sociological impact of belief in extraterrestrial contact or the religious aspects of UFO mythology on one hand, or the astronomical search for, but UFOlogy as commonly understood? That's interesting to say the least.

Quote I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?


Western Esotericism in general, Theosophy and the Perennial Tradition in specific. Recently also developed an interest in Gnosticism and Satanism of various varieties as well as the Kabbalah to some extent. It's specifically their impact on the history of more mainstream philosophy, science and theology I'm interested in.


To go back on topic, I've begun reading these two...



Only skimmed it and read a couple chapters so far. I can however tell that it does fix Kaleidoscope Eyes' major issues of curious omissions and sometimes shallow analysis as a result of being over twice as long. It's still too subjective to be that useful as a history of psychedelic music, but I look forward to finding some interesting insight into old favourites and more importantly lots of good obscure records.




Haven't read any of these books yet, but it's rather promising if a bit dry. The music-theoretical side of it explains a lot of curious things about the record's songwriting I've either never been able to explain or noticed that consciously. (the album's lyrics, of course, have been poured over by the people at the Cup of Wonder fansite)



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Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I've been into UFOlogy for a long time and I was offered the chance to teach a college level 'elective course' on it and releated esoteric phenomena some years ago as a side job  ,but it din't pay enough so I continued to practice Optometry.


What kind of college offers courses in UFOlogy? I imagine maybe the sociological impact of belief in extraterrestrial contact or the religious aspects of UFO mythology on one hand, or the astronomical search for, but UFOlogy as commonly understood? That's interesting to say the least.

Quote I also have been a student of esoteric religions for many years focusing on the western hermetic  and occult and spiritual traditions but haven't read much about that area for a few years now. Which esoteric religions are you interested in?


Western Esotericism in general, Theosophy and the Perennial Tradition in specific. Recently also developed an interest in Gnosticism and Satanism of various varieties as well as the Kabbalah to some extent. It's specifically their impact on the history of more mainstream philosophy, science and theology I'm interested in.


To go back on topic, I've begun reading these two...



Only skimmed it and read a couple chapters so far. I can however tell that it does fix Kaleidoscope Eyes' major issues of curious omissions and sometimes shallow analysis as a result of being over twice as long. It's still too subjective to be that useful as a history of psychedelic music, but I look forward to finding some interesting insight into old favourites and more importantly lots of good obscure records.




Haven't read any of these books yet, but it's rather promising if a bit dry. The music-theoretical side of it explains a lot of curious things about the record's songwriting I've either never been able to explain or noticed that consciously. (the album's lyrics, of course, have been poured over by the people at the Cup of Wonder fansite)

DePaul University at that time had several pop culture courses that were elective for 1 hr of credit. The exact nature of the ufo course was to be decided but it would have entailed the history and sociology and impact on cultural ideas . 
Sounds like my interest in the western occult trad is similar to yours.
I read De Rogatis book a while ago..it was decent. Haven't heard of the  Aqualung book.
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About what I'd expect from a college course in UFOlogy.

Kinda surprised there hasn't been any threads on the 33 series in the Prog Books forum as it contains analyses of several prog/psych/avant albums. Or maybe it's just because this forum has already analyzed those records to death. LOL
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