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Poll Question: What's your least favorite of Rush's longer tracks?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
8 [16.67%]
4 [8.33%]
16 [33.33%]
4 [8.33%]
1 [2.08%]
1 [2.08%]
3 [6.25%]
3 [6.25%]
1 [2.08%]
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    Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:17
As a Rush fan I find it very hard to choose a favorite track or album, there is too much I love equaly - but in a band that puts everything they come up with on their albums there are bound to be some lesser material. Personaly, I find that most of their longer tracks are not at the same level as the shorter ones - they never did master the "epic" format, IMO. 

So, here is a list of all their tracks over 8 minutes long, which I find is an adequate lenght for a song to enter the "epic" scope. Jacob's Ladder, off by just over 30 seconds from the 8 minute mark, is the only exception, as I feel that track's structure is closer the other tracks that to Rush's shorter songs.

Myself, I think I have to go with The Camera Eye. I think it's the weakest piece on an almost faultless record, just too long, repetitive, boring. 


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Jacob's Ladder, too repetitive for my liking it's still good though 
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The Camera Eye here also.  2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter.  Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth.
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Originally posted by Melomaniac

The Camera Eye here also.  2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter.  Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth.


What's wrong with The Camera Eye?? I love it


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:32
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Originally posted by Kotro

As a Rush fan I find it very hard to choose a favorite track or album, there is too much I love equaly - but in a band that puts everything they come up with on their albums there are bound to be some lesser material. Personaly, I find that most of their longer tracks are not at the same level as the shorter ones - they never did master the "epic" format, IMO. 

So, here is a list of all their tracks over 8 minutes long, which I find is an adequate lenght for a song to enter the "epic" scope. Jacob's Ladder, off by just over 30 seconds from the 8 minute mark, is the only exception, as I feel that track's structure is closer the other tracks that to Rush's shorter songs.

Myself, I think I have to go with The Camera Eye. I think it's the weakest piece on an almost faultless record, just too long, repetitive, boring. 



Smoke    you are smoking something, nothing repetitive about it, now Jacob's Ladder is a different story
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Hemispheres.  18.04 minutes? I thought it was much longer!
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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112

Originally posted by Melomaniac

The Camera Eye here also.  2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter.  Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth.


What's wrong with The Camera Eye?? I love it
There is nothing wrong with The Camera Eye per se, I love it also (almost an unconditional Rush fan myself, except for that dreadful Test for Echo album), it's just the one I love the least ; I think it would have been a better song had it been shorter and less repetitive.
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Originally posted by Melomaniac

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112

Originally posted by Melomaniac

The Camera Eye here also.  2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter.  Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth.


What's wrong with The Camera Eye?? I love it
There is nothing wrong with The Camera Eye per se, I love it also (almost an unconditional Rush fan myself, except for that dreadful Test for Echo album), it's just the one I love the least ; I think it would have been a better song had it been shorter and less repetitive.


repetitive??? Confused  I don't hear it? Where?? the riff before the verses?? I feel it's brilliant and not repetitive


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:45
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Easily 2112 for me.  I like everything else on the list significantly better. 


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By-Tor is an easy choice for me. Never cared for it. I much rather listen to Anthem or Fly By Night.

Fountain having two votes? Have they ever listened to it?

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Fountain having two votes? Have they ever listened to it?
I feel the same way, I think it's absolutely amazing and varied.  But to each their own, and I think this forum would be a better place if we all respected each other's opinions and tastes !  Hug
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What? Fountain of Lamneth is one of the best Rush songs, not one of the worst.
That said, I simply hate By-Tor.
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the Necromancer. 
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In all honesty, I like them all but I voted for the Fountain of Lamneth in part because it's not integrated as one unified piece imo and also because I like it least. It just doesn't strike me as an epic or long track but rather a bunch of songs stiched together.
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I like all of them a lot.
 
 
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Originally posted by Prog_Traveller

In all honesty, I like them all but I voted for the Fountain of Lamneth in part because it's not integrated as one unified piece imo and also because I like it least. It just doesn't strike me as an epic or long track but rather a bunch of songs stiched together.
It's a sort of a proto-2112. Instead of a single,progressing tune - it tends to have the feeling of movements. I don't really think this takes away from the song, but rather how the movements are stitched together. I'd agree that Fountain seems like the movements are a bit abrupt, but the track as a whole is quite enjoyable. 

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They're all good, But The Fountain is a tad messy.
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I like all of these. I vote for By-Tor and the Snow Dog, just before The Necromancer and 2112.
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