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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2013 at 20:51
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

 
Who cares what label they or any other band are on? 

Wow, really? There exists in this world great and fantastic independent labels which specialise in introducing and promoting certain sounds or genres and are like the most important thing going on in music. They not only put out local music, but help foster scenes. You want to catch up on what's going on in German minimal techno, and be guaranteed to hear the creme de la creme, then you go to Kompakt, which *started* the whole thing. You want leftfield eerie electronica, check out Tri Angle (Balam Acab, How to Dress Well, Clams Casino, Holy Other). You want among the best dubstep that was being made, you go to Kode9's Hyperdub (Burial, King Midas Sound, The Bug, Mala, Darkstar, Joker, Ikonika). If you want to check out the great pioneering IDM artists, you checked out Warp Records. Some guy in the USA started SST Records, and thanks to this, the world has albums by Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, the Minutemen, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Meat Puppets, Soundgarden... These bands and their albums wouldn't exist in the world today without this label.

In England, a certain small label called 4AD put out albums by no-name bands like the Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, the Pixies, Throwing Muses, the Breeders. These bands didn't stand a chance, and would've never recorded their masterpieces without this label. 4AD current recording artists include Ariel Pink, Bon Iver, Camera Obscura, Deerhunter, Gang Gang Dance, Grimes...

So, yeah, very important, certain independent labels are. Certain jazz labels put out certain kinds of jazz music, and aficionados would purchase albums from these labels knowing very well that the music inside had to be great and important. Fantastic times, fantastic local scenes. These labels are the lifeblood of music.

Warp Records was formed around a group of people promoting a certain vision and aesthetic that was heavily influenced by Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd. Nearly everything put out by this young label is now a classic, and those artists are considered pioneers in so-called IDM. At the very topic is the person considered to be the heir to Brian Eno, and that's Richard D. James, otherwise known as Aphex Twin. The Orb, Aphex ("Selected Ambient Works," 1 & 2), Boards of Canada, Future Sound of London, and so many others are, in fact, progressive electronic.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2013 at 20:58
Who?

Seriously, I'm aware of their existence, but never heard a single track from them Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2013 at 20:59
Math-Rock needs more attention. :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 05:44
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

 
Who cares what label they or any other band are on? 

Wow, really? There exists in this world great and fantastic independent labels which specialise in introducing and promoting certain sounds or genres and are like the most important thing going on in music. They not only put out local music, but help foster scenes. You want to catch up on what's going on in German minimal techno, and be guaranteed to hear the creme de la creme, then you go to Kompakt, which *started* the whole thing. You want leftfield eerie electronica, check out Tri Angle (Balam Acab, How to Dress Well, Clams Casino, Holy Other). You want among the best dubstep that was being made, you go to Kode9's Hyperdub (Burial, King Midas Sound, The Bug, Mala, Darkstar, Joker, Ikonika). If you want to check out the great pioneering IDM artists, you checked out Warp Records. Some guy in the USA started SST Records, and thanks to this, the world has albums by Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, the Minutemen, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Meat Puppets, Soundgarden... These bands and their albums wouldn't exist in the world today without this label.

In England, a certain small label called 4AD put out albums by no-name bands like the Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, the Pixies, Throwing Muses, the Breeders. These bands didn't stand a chance, and would've never recorded their masterpieces without this label. 4AD current recording artists include Ariel Pink, Bon Iver, Camera Obscura, Deerhunter, Gang Gang Dance, Grimes...

So, yeah, very important, certain independent labels are. Certain jazz labels put out certain kinds of jazz music, and aficionados would purchase albums from these labels knowing very well that the music inside had to be great and important. Fantastic times, fantastic local scenes. These labels are the lifeblood of music.

Warp Records was formed around a group of people promoting a certain vision and aesthetic that was heavily influenced by Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd. Nearly everything put out by this young label is now a classic, and those artists are considered pioneers in so-called IDM. At the very topic is the person considered to be the heir to Brian Eno, and that's Richard D. James, otherwise known as Aphex Twin. The Orb, Aphex ("Selected Ambient Works," 1 & 2), Boards of Canada, Future Sound of London, and so many others are, in fact, progressive electronic.

Just because Saens are on Cyclops doesnt mean I give a damn about any of the other bands on there. I care about whether a bands any good, not who they're signed too. Plus, the majority of bands and styles you mentioned here can be losely called "Electronic", which I detest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 06:32
I fall under the casual fan label - I have mirrored and love it, when I'm in the mood.

Also, I second everything Jude111 has said. Lifeforms by FSOL or Selected Ambient Works Vol. II by Aphex Twin are as cutting edge and groundbreaking as anything Tangerine Dream or Kraftwerk did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:17
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

My last listen was to "Mirrored" and that one kind of hit the spot, but "Gloss Drop" has yet to excite me.  I recognize that there's good musicians playing there (I loved John Stanier in Helmet), it just sounds like music on autopilot to me much of the time.

I sort of feel the same Steve. Gloss Drop for that matter, sounds like auto-pilot a lot of the time, still think it's a great album, but certainly not Mirrored? Tyondai will be missed. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:19
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

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Another great one from Mirrored - my favourite tune by them. Thumbs Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:21
Race:In is another favorite of mine. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:27
Race:In is such an amazing opener. I love the drums on that one. Stanier is a beast. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:31
Yea. And pertaining to Gloss Drop - it def seems more tame to me.But i love the almost Krautrock feel of some songs on it.

Plus the vocal songs are all nailed. There are some lesser songs - much like Mirrored. But they don't really drag it down. I used to prefer it to Mirror - but now i'm with the masses, and like Mirrored More it seems. It'll prolly go back and for - and that's a good thing. :D


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:43
Well, looking back on your review Austin, it certainly sounded like you worshiped the album. Big smile I thought Futura was pretty Kraut influenced though - sounds a lot like circa 73-75 Can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:44
It's an awful review. 
I really do love it. I just don't prefer it to Mirrored anymore. at least i've been listened to Mirrored more recently. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:47
Gloss Drop, to me, seemed a lot more accessible, and the pop record out of the two, which is a good thing of course.  They didn't lose the complexity and abstract melodies that they gained a reputation for, but the songwriting dynamic was stripped down a bit. I really like it a lot for it's fun and quirky sort of sound though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:48
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

It's an awful review. 
I really do love it. I just don't prefer it to Mirrored anymore. at least i've been listened to Mirrored more recently. 

Dude, what's wrong with it?
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