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Poll Question: ..some things I like on toast
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    Posted: March 07 2013 at 04:56
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I'll go for the jelly.  I don't eat toast regularly, but last time I some it was butter and jelly.

What is jelly?
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I'll go for the jelly.  I don't eat toast regularly, but last time I some it was butter and jelly.

What is jelly?

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Jelly is American for jam. What we call jelly they call jello or gelatin.
 
 
 
 
 
/edit: what they call jam we call a noisy tuneless racket made by stoned hippies.


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Originally posted by Jim Garten

Dean, you got there first

Good coarse Ardennes pate if a quick breakfast is needed (gotta be good bread, though); Marmite, if pate not available.

For a more substantial one; beans + 2 fried eggs



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Got to be Ardennes, good and coarse - that smooth stuff is just posh baby food.
 
Smoked fish pate is good too - mash up smoked mackerel, salmon or trout with some quality cream cheese, a dash of lemon and plenty of pepper - loverly. Approve


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i never understood what the difference between a marmalade and a jam/jlelly is, 
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Originally posted by aginor

i never understood what the difference between a marmalade and a jam/jlelly is, 
Marmalade is simply jam made with citrus fruits, often with piece of the candied peel to give a bitter taste.


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Originally posted by Dean

Jelly is American for jam. What we call jelly they call jello or gelatin.
 
 


But I have heard americans call it jam. For example the Friends episode "The one with all  the jam" and surely jello is a trade name? And gelatin is...gelatin.
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To further confuse things we also have "preserves" which appear to be just jam with a higher content of chunky fruits....
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Originally posted by Finnforest

To further confuse things we also have "preserves" which appear to be just jam with a higher content of chunky fruits....
Yes we have preserves too.Thumbs Up

Is a jelly like a clear jam then with no fruit?


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Yes, jelly appears to be colored, fruit flavored gelatin....not that I'm an expert.....LOL
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Originally posted by Dean

Got to be Ardennes, good and coarse - that smooth stuff is just posh baby food.
 

Smoked fish pate is good too - mash up smoked mackerel, salmon or trout with some quality cream cheese, a dash of lemon and plenty of pepper - loverly. Approve


Highly recommend some freshly grated horseradish in the mix, too (has to be fresh, not the creamed rubbish). Not too much, or you'll smother the taste, but enough just to give it a bit of a kick. In the absence of fresh horseradish, wasabi paste works well, too

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Originally posted by Finnforest

Yes, jelly appears to be colored, fruit flavored gelatin....not that I'm an expert.....LOL

No that sounds like British jelly. I mean the stuff you put with peanut butter.

I'll google  it.
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Yes....a clear jam

" Jelly is a clear or translucent fruit spread made from sweetened fruit (or vegetable) juice and set using naturally occurring pectin  "

No gelatin.

"Jelly can be made from sweet, savory or hot ingredients. It is made by a process similar to that used for making jam, with the additional step of filtering out the fruit pulp after the initial heating."


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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Dean

Jelly is American for jam. What we call jelly they call jello or gelatin.
 
 


But I have heard americans call it jam. For example the Friends episode "The one with all  the jam" and surely jello is a trade name? And gelatin is...gelatin.
I never said they were consistant Wink Hoover is a trade name that we use as a generic name for all vaccuum cleaners and so it is with Jell-O.
 
We sometimes call jam preserve and sometime we call it conserve and some may even claim there is a difference based upon fruit content, but that's just a marketting ploy.


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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Yes....a clear jam

" Jelly is a clear or translucent fruit spread made from sweetened fruit (or vegetable) juice and set using naturally occurring pectin  "

No gelatin.

"Jelly can be made from sweet, savory or hot ingredients. It is made by a process similar to that used for making jam, with the additional step of filtering out the fruit pulp after the initial heating."
...and Wikipedia is written mainly by Americans. Tongue


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The Tesco order of ascendance:

Jam = cheap (99.999% sugar 0.0001% fruit flavour/colouring - avoid)

Preserve = more expensive (may have a poncey label & more than 25% fruit; acceptable - just)

Conserve = most expensive (will have a poncey label & a half decent percentage of actual fruit - recommended)


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Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Snow Dog

Yes....a clear jam

" Jelly is a clear or translucent fruit spread made from sweetened fruit (or vegetable) juice and set using naturally occurring pectin  "

No gelatin.

"Jelly can be made from sweet, savory or hot ingredients. It is made by a process similar to that used for making jam, with the additional step of filtering out the fruit pulp after the initial heating."
...and Wikipedia is written mainly by Americans. Tongue

It seems to be a reasonable definition
 

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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Snow Dog

Yes....a clear jam

" Jelly is a clear or translucent fruit spread made from sweetened fruit (or vegetable) juice and set using naturally occurring pectin  "

No gelatin.

"Jelly can be made from sweet, savory or hot ingredients. It is made by a process similar to that used for making jam, with the additional step of filtering out the fruit pulp after the initial heating."
...and Wikipedia is written mainly by Americans. Tongue

It seems to be a reasonable definition
 

True, but you'd not put any of those on toast, they are more like condiments or clear chutneys for serving with savoury foods.
 
The Wikipedia entries that refer to fruit jellies that you'd spread on a piece of toast all seem to reference Ruth Berolzheimer, an American cookery book editor and home-economist. Grape Jelly, which is the common ingredient for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, is a jam.


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and I ain't putting this on toast either:
 


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